This is my opinion .

Just think of our solar system . It has 9 planets and Earth has Life on it . So there are about another billion solar systems , So do you think that Earth is the only planet that has life ? i don't think so . For sure there should be other life on other planets but only some may have developed some may not and some may be micro organisms . But just think of Earth , We humans living on it try to go to other planets and find out details and whether there are life on Mars and other planets , So what if there is another kind of animal or something that has technology like us or for sure superior . They must be coming to Earth .
The other thing is that i believe that aliens have been visiting The Earth for millions and millions of years . And they are the reason for our development . Just think the Egyptians . Humans were cavemen at the begining and atonce they became civilized and developed and started building pyramids and other stuff by using maths and geometry . So There are aliens that have and is visiting us .

Welcome to the forum, Tharak. I agree with you. In a universe ordered just so, it does seem improbable that life does not elsewhere exist. Further, even if Life were but a random sequence of events and conditions, in a universe of infinite possibilities, it seems impossible that this sequence would itself repeat somewhere along the line. The idea that life exists only on one planet in the universe is as ludicrous as they come.

we all know deep down,that life exists elsewhere we just have to find it.ones that will change the way we live our lives for ourselves,instead live and work for the good of all.current systems are corrupt and biased,human frailties and desires get in the way of humanties real task,to make us the best civilisation in universal terms.

I also agree that there is life somewhere, but I do not believe in humanoids or anything with greater technology than us. I believe there is bacteria out there and maybe even animal-like creatures (e.g a rat), but I do not believe that they have any contact with us on Earth, that they are getting our "software" or that we are at all subject to them. I don't believe we are the highest form of being (God), but I don't believe that watever is higher than us is at all an alien.

Yes, Tharak, I agree with you as well. My main argument for people that don't believe in other life forms is basically just that-- with all that space out there, how could there NOT be anything else? It doesn't necessarily have to be a greater intelligence than us, or one that wants to take us over one day, or even one that stages abductions, but there must be something.

iwant2believe2 Thank You for your warm welcome and others thank you too

I have a view that is almost identical to yours. For sure there is other life out there. And not just a few - countless!

For sure many of those are intelligent and have a civilization. And for sure many of those are trying to communicate. And for sure some of those are trying to travel.

I am about 85% sure that some of them already made it to Earth (I have evidenced one myself).

As to aliens influencing how humanity developed into a civilization - for that I am divided. I give it a 35% possibility.

Yeah senhuan we too are both correct .

Well the whole notion that there is a superior being that is not God, but in fact an Alien to me doesn't sound likely. I mean, sure there could be, but I just don't buy it. And even if there was, I do NOT at all believe they have come to Earth. We have some great technology, but haven't gone further than the moon and now to mars. It's not that far if you're gonna compare it to Aliens from different GALAXIES.

Aliens would need to have some freaking good technology if they are going to come here. Besides, what is it here that they want? We have: Polluted Air, Trashed Oceans, etc. It's just not a healthy place out of so many other places that are VERY healthy.

So I just don't buy it.

What if they are hostile ? Maybe they want more and more resources but i am not sure

erm... From the most recent and most humanly advances science out there, we are only beginning to realise that we have not even began to scratch the surface of the Universe. So to say that we have some freaking awesome technology on a universal scale is stretching it. Most of what we have now, we have discovered in the past relatively few years (200 or so). In a thousand years, we will be laughing at ourselves now. In 10 000 years, we can not even speculate what we will be doing. In 1 000 000 years... you could have a wristwatch that takes you to wherever you want to go lol.

Anyway, my point is: the more we find out, the more we realise we don't know.

This post has been edited by senhuan: Apr 12 2008, 08:31 AM

That's my exact point! On a universal scale, we may not have such great technology as I described. So does that necessarily mean the aliens DO have great technology. Think about it

I think it does, considering that it is highly probable that there are civilizations out there millions of years more advanced than our own (or at least with millions of years more of a head start). I am not quite sure what you are asking. Are you saying that it is probable that other civilizations have not moved further in science than us?

This post has been edited by senhuan: Apr 12 2008, 05:31 PM

I'm saying, even their technology is so great, do you actually think they can get to us? Do you actually believe that they are able to come here MILLIONS of LIGHTYEARS away from us? Given they can travel at the speed of light, that means they would have to travel for MILLIONS OF YEARS by traveling at LIGHTSPEED. I'm supposed to believe that they can do this in a matter of hours or days or watever? I don't think so. It just doesn't work that way, my friend

What makes you think they are limited to the speed of light? That's what I'm saying: you are thinking in human science terms. Things we know. We do not know things we will know 10 000 000 years from now. We can not even imagine. Perhaps they can bend space-time? Perhaps they have found wormholes? Perhaps they can control them? Perhaps they unraveled the fabric of the Universe itself? Perhaps it is something a young mind like a humans' cannot yet perceive?

Remember what people used to say? "Rediculous! Man cannot travel at more than 80 miles per hour. His insides will simply explode and he will die." (people really did say this. Then modern and respected scientists.)

Again my point is: we do not know.

This post has been edited by senhuan: Apr 12 2008, 05:51 PM

They really did say that? Wow, maybe you've got a point there, young man (I really don't know how old you are, so don't bash me for that one ). I gotta say senhuan, I think you might've just convinced me on that point. Good Job, i'm convinced that it is possible.

Now prove to me there ARE civilizations with millions of years more experience than us

Yes it does. Only you may not be aware of it.

hahaha I'm 32. Great to convince someone =p~

Well, there are solar systems out there, presumably some with planets capable of bearing life, that are way older than Sol. Lots of them. Logic doesn't need to go further than that, right?

Damn got me again. Dude, congrats, you have been the ONLY ONE to actually convince me on a matter like this.
senhuan

Looks like young man's got a wise brain

This post has been edited by Sgt.Hobbes: Apr 12 2008, 06:01 PM

I pressed wrong button, disregard post

This post has been edited by Sgt.Hobbes: Apr 12 2008, 06:01 PM