If the theory of the Illuminati/New World Order explored by authors such as David Icke, Jim Marrs and William Bramley are largely correct, then I think that the real origin and purpose of the majority of the genuine (non-hoaxable) crop formations is clear:

The reptilians who operate through the network of hybrid human-reptilian bloodlines referred to as the Illuminati (by the above researchers) have dominated the planet for quite some time; their planned New World Order is fast approaching unless enough of us wake up in time.

Therefore, any outside faction of aliens opposing the Illuminati's planned Orwellian Earth and trying to help the masses would have to use alternative methods to get through to the people. TV or radio would not be an option, nor would any attempted "diplomatic landing."

Under this scenario, would there really be any better way to peacefully wake up the masses from the Illuminati's mind-control than constantly sneaking down little remote-control orbs (white balls of light) to create crop circles containing powerful encoded messages? I personally can't think of a better way... it's perfect. The more frequent and complex they get, the more people are paying attention and trying to figure out what they mean.

I think that the reason the formations are getting more complex and frequent by the year is because the New World Order is getting closer and closer to a reality, and a "rebel alliance" of aliens is trying to wake us up the only way they really can-- with crop formations.

It's time we start trying to decode each and every one of the formations that has been shown to be unhoaxable. The formations are blueprints to freedom, and time is tight.

The essay at the following link has been circulating in the Michigan underground in the form of photocopies for a while; I decided to translate it to an online essay, and I posted it on my website. Please read it from start to finish-- I believe it might provide some previously untapped ways of decoding crop formations, while also confirming that the makers of this particular formation are probably the aliens who are trying to help us break free from the Illuminati's control. Here's the link:

http://www.scatterdome.com/howell.htm

If you get to the end and it doesn't seem to make any sense, then I suggest picking up either Tales From The Time Loop by David Icke, Rule By Secrecy by Jim Marrs, or any book by an author exploring the same theory. (William Cooper, William Bramley, etc.). Then read the Howell essay again.

Any comments?

Hi, and welcome to the forum! The very scary scenario you have, must be terrible to believe. Thinking that man will be subjucated to aliens for purposses I don't know at least. The thing is, that I have never heard of any proof to say that these guys are correct. NOTHING. Then again, you might know something I don't (very likely in fact )

Bloody 'ell, I'd better "win" this arguement, or us humans are in alot of trouble!

It's scary stuff indeed..... I'm still on the fence about believing in it, but if someone just made this stuff up, they would top the scariest horror writers out there.

Trust me...I know David Icke and I have to keep saying it...the man is nuts. I knew him at a personal level some ten years ago and he was a fruit cake! He was nuts! Darla will back me up on just how 'weird' David Icke is but you must KNOW THIS!
EVERYTHING WHICH HE SAYS IN AMERICA HE RECANTS IN BRITAIN BECAUSE HE IS KNOWN AS A SPORTS COMMENTATOR HERE AND IT MAKES HIM APPEAR MAD!!

Only in America does he get away with this nonsense,

Ben

Who is David Icke?

A nutcase I knew at University....he was a goalkeeper for Hereford or something and became a TV Sports commentator then went mad....with lust over a mother and daughter and professed he knew the time for the aliens to appear was coming and that everyone had to sleep with him....or something like that. Listen I have had the man seated in the most important seat in Scotland.....the one in the pub. I know he lies because he told me he can take his Malt whisky......I killed him...I nailed him....he lied! I even added Drambuie to mine to give him a fighting chance! He died. He was ressurected two days later and told it was alcohol poisoning. What a pussy (Small Cat).

Ben *Who didn't even wobble* :angelwing

It was a harsh day indeed when I realized that Fort, Icke, Marrs, Bramley and Cooper are probably on the right track regarding the alien/secret society/New Word order connection, but their theory, when closely examined, made more sense to me than the “official” version of reality, and still does.

But I’d rather know an ugly truth than believe a cozy lie, even if it means realizing a very ugly truth about who is really in charge on this planet. However, these days I am noticing more “rays of hope” like the Howell discoveries, and my feeling is more towards thinking the Illuminati are losing their grip on their New World Order agenda. So many more people these days are aware of these theories that stopping the inevitable evolution of human consciousness is not as within reach as the Illuminati want it to be…


It is scary to open one’s mind to the idea that we really are the reptilian Illuminati’s brainwashed livestock, as described by the aforementioned authors, but look at the bright side— this essay demonstrates that there’s a force on OUR side equally matched (if not superior) to the Illuminati’s intelligence, dedicated to giving us encoded instructions to becoming free from the Illuminati bloodlines’ long-standing rule by exposing their ancient conspiracy. The essay demonstrates that one thing we can do to wake up the masses and expose the Illuminati (and thus, diminish their power over the Earth) is figure out how to decode crop formations more thoroughly—and this essay goes a long way towards providing new ways to decode any crop circle’s message..


Trust you? Should we? Can you post any proof that you know David Icke? After all, anyone can claim anything on the internet…

If you were one of the people at the cutting edge of helping the world figure out the story of how aliens fit into the big scheme of things on Earth, you would seem a little ‘weird’ to people, too.

Ben, have you ever actually read one of his books? He may not be the smoothest writer out there, but since I read The Biggest Secret almost 4 years ago, I have yet to hear anyone point out an actual weak point in his overall theory. His detractors huff and puff, attempting to reduce the amount of people who will check out his research by misquoting him, quoting him out of context, and saying things like:

… and such.

OK, Ben, so you say that everything he says in America he recants in Britain? That’s a pretty large statement. Can you give us a relevant example of this, complete with links to back up its factuality, that isn’t just an example of a minor earlier detail of his theory being modified later on as his research uncovers new facts?






OK, you must be joking with us, right, Ben? I can’t tell… For now, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re joking.

On that note, please remember that some very serious stuff has been uncovered by the essay linked in my first post, and also remember that David Icke is far from the first author to elaborate on the humans-as-livestock theory on which part of the essay is based.

Ben, did you actually read the essay? Or did you hit the “back” button when you read the first paragraph that recommends David Icke, before you have a chance to scroll down the page and see the PHOTOS of what was discovered??

To answer your question, kellyb, David Icke is among the most popular “conspiracy theorists” in the world, despite his lack of mainstream-media exposure. (Unless his frequent extended appearances on “Coast to Coast with Art Bell/George Noory” count.) His books are my personal top recommendation for discovering the truth about the reptilian/Illuminati/New World Order connection in an accessible way, although books by Jim Marrs, William Cooper and William Bramley have explored the same theory with some major success. These authors’ central theory is a modern detailed expansion on the theory put forth by Charles Fort, the famous pioneer of paranormal research and the man after whom the word “Fortean” was coined. He stated it best in his book The Book Of The Damned (pub. 1919):

"I think we're property. I should say we belong to something: that once upon a time, this Earth was No-Man's Land, that other worlds explored and colonized here, and fought among themselves for possession, but that now it's owned by something. That something owns this Earth- all others warned off."

Among these authors, David Icke tends to receive the brunt of media attacks based on slander, misinformation and substance-free debunking—probably because he is the furthest along in developing this overall theory and the specific details involved, and probably is also the most accessible author for the average reader who is new to these ideas.

In the 3 ¾ years snce I first read Icke’s book The Biggest Secret, I have yet to meet someone or read something from someone who has read and entire David Icke book and then went on to successfully point out weak points in his overall theory. On the other hand, I have read plenty of groundless debunking of the man.

So, the challenge is open to any of you readers: Have any of you read one of David Icke’s most recent books, or any books by Charles Fort, Jim Marrs, William Cooper, William Bramley, and then found a major hole in the details they use to back up their humans-as-livestock theory?

For those of you who have read a whole book by one of those authors, what’s your take on how the Howell discoveries fit into it? Please speak up!

For those of you just tuning in, here (again) is the link to the essay on the Howell crop circles and what they pointed out:

http://www.scatterdome.com/howell.htm

Sorry to burst your bubble there Scatterdome but when David went through his 'Purple patch' D'you remember it...when half of Scotland was to dissapear underwater and the Isle of Arran was to be no more???? No I didn't think you would. I need to put my credentials up against no man. Only once against a woman have I had to do that on this forum and I won't be repeating it all.

David Icke is a nut and CONFESSED TO HAVING MENTAL DIFFICULTIES ON THE PARKINSON SHOW HERE IN BRITAIN. He also renounced all his nonsense about aliens and people under the sea and that Scotland was going to dissapear (It was only watched by about 12 million people). You appear quite the sceptic...which is healthy...but if you want to follow the deluded when there's someone offering you a lifeline you go right ahead. Good luck in your quest!

Ben

Edited to add I wasn't at the cutting edge of anything except Sociology. Icke was just a nut that came to speak and gather devotees!!! Good little girls in nice little skirts!

I'm going to have to read a bunch of books, just to know what the guy is talking about? Why can't you give us some outcuts of the theories, like how do you tell real crop cirles from fake ones? If you made a theory, you COULD just pick all the cropcircles that could be translated into fitting the theory, and isn't proven without a doubt to be fake. For instance, I say:
The universe is made by the pancake people.
So I look around for cropcircles that look like they have something to do with pancakes and the universe, like say, interconnecting cirles (pancakes are round, and a circle can symbolize eternity). No problem!

How about some proof from this guy (or you), instead of us having to read all those books and telling you where the holes are?

The world through Dros's eyes???????or not.........


I just could not help it...there something in the water here makes me..... :cool:



Opal Princess :devil:

Ok Scatterdome it's only fair that I should present some evidence, here is the transcript of the Wogan show which Icke appeared on years ago and made an absolute ass of himself. I will post the URL of the source as well. Be warned. David Icke is an Aryan rascist whom I despise, this transcript broadcast on national TV was made when he went through his 'torquoise period' (Sorry it wasn't purple) and he had been chosen by God to be the NEW JESUS!. This may go to some way of showing just how delusional the man is, here is the transcript from the show and a subsequent report;-

Wogan. The blue comedian Jim Davidson was top of the bill that night (this was primetime BBC1, in the autumn of 1991), but most of the viewers had tuned in to see Terry Wogan's first guest. There had been rumours in the tabloids all week that something unexpected had happened to David Icke, the popular BBC sports personality, once a professional football player, now the host of Grandstand and a household name. The tabloids said that David Icke had started wearing only turquoise, that he was predicting cataclysmic flooding and earthquakes - and that he was claiming to be the Son of God.

I had watched a videotape of this broadcast before leaving London for Vancouver. It was startling to see how David Icke looked, how haggard and exhausted and terribly nervous - so unlike the genial BBC soccer and snooker correspondent whom the British public had come to feel so comfortable with - and dressed from head to toe in a turquoise shellsuit (turquoise being a conduit of positive energy) as he stepped out on to the stage.

"Why you?" asked Wogan with an incredulity that reflected the mood of the land. "Why have you been chosen?"

"People would have said the same thing to Jesus," David Icke replied. "Who the heck are you? You're a carpenter's son."

"When might we expect tidal waves, eruptions and earthquakes?" asked Wogan.

"They will certainly happen this year," said David.

This conversation took place amid howls of laughter from the studio audience.

"Why should we believe you?" said Wogan.

"I'm saying that these things are going to happen this year," said David, "so we'll see, won't we?"

"And what will happen to you if they don't happen?" asked Wogan.

"They will happen," said David.

He said this with such ferocity, such conviction, that the audience stopped laughing for a moment. However wise and modern we are, this kind of thing can still shake us up. You could feel it sweep across the television studio, sweep across the land, a stirring of some primordial paranoia. Could David Icke actually be a soothsayer? At that moment, I think the nation looked to Terry Wogan for guidance. How would he respond? Which way would this go?

"The best way of removing negativity is to laugh and be joyous, Terry," said David. "So I'm glad that there's been so much laughter in the audience tonight." There was a small silence.

"But they're laughing at you," said Wogan. "They're not laughing with you."

There was a gasp, followed by rapturous applause. So the Canadian coalition was unaware of the moment that David Icke's career had crashed so dramatically in Britain. Had they known, would they have felt differently about the reasons why he said that giant lizards secretly ruled the world? Furthermore, the coalition seemed to have disregarded the fact that many of the lizard-people Icke had publicly named and shamed were not Jewish. There was a piece of compelling evidence that David Icke did mean Jews when he said lizards. Buried somewhere in the middle of his hundreds of thousands of published words is a short paean to the Protocols of Zion - the absurd 19th-century Tsarist forgery proclaiming to be the minutes of a meeting of the Jewish secret rulers of the world: "Protocol 9: The weapons in our hands are limitless ambition, burning greediness, merciless vengeance, hatred and malice. It is from us that all-engulfing terror proceeds . . . We will not give [the people of the world] peace until they openly acknowledge our international Super-Government."

Is that sufficient...or do I really have to give you his life story....trust me he was a soccer goalkeeper and TV presenter who quite simply used his status to gather devotees!

Ben

For the full story of Icke's madness (When he believed he was Jesus) and the clear racism of him go to http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story...,457988,00.html

In this country (Sorry don't know where you are) The Guardian is one of our most respected newspapers.

Oh and Scatterdome...with the greatest of respect.....I am one of our country's most outspoken people....I normally never speak unless I know what I'm talking about, gotta pick my words carefully. I too get the same media attention but fortunately, I'm not mad! Recently I've been quiet.....Mmmm you may have given me some inspiration to shout again!

Ben

Yup......David Icke...100% nutcase.

Backed you up eventually Ben...forgot about this thread.
Better late than never.

Cheers Darla!!!!

Ben x

Well Ben, that part you said about you not being "mad", I'm not sure of but, Scatterdome, if you want to talk with someone who is completely sane, I want to tell you about the up-side-down crop circles in Australia and the Vineman Yowies. Talk about the Lizard people, they got nothing on the Vineman Yowies. Just ask Dingo Brains after she comes back from becoming a millionaire digging for Opals in the Outback. And I'm not talking about Restraunts either.

Rich :alien:

P.S.
Gotta use the cowboy Icon too. :cowboy:

Oh you've been itching to find somewhere to use that cowboy smilie Rich. I suspect we'll be seeing a lot more of it!! LOL

Ben

You damn bettcha!

Rich :cowboy: :cowboy: :cowboy:

[QUOTE=Rich]Scatterdome, if you want to talk with someone who is completely sane, I want to tell you about the up-side-down crop circles in Australia and the Vineman Yowies.[/QUOTE]
Upside-down, eh? It wouldn’t surpise me… Formations have appeared in trees, you know.
[QUOTE=Ben]Sorry to burst your bubble there Scatterdome but when David went through his 'Purple patch' D'you remember it...when half of Scotland was to dissapear underwater and the Isle of Arran was to be no more???? [/QUOTE]
Yes, I remember… I remember that it was something he said way back in 1991.
[QUOTE=Ben]No I didn't think you would. I need to put my credentials up against no man. [/QUOTE]
Yes, you do-- that is, if you take seriously the responsibility you have as the moderator of a highly visible internet forum on a highly important subject. Ever heard the slogan “No Power Without Accountability?”
[QUOTE=Ben]Only once against a woman have I had to do that on this forum and I won't be repeating it all.

David Icke is a nut and CONFESSED TO HAVING MENTAL DIFFICULTIES ON THE PARKINSON SHOW HERE IN BRITAIN. [/QUOTE]
Who on this planet, exactly, hasn’t had some form of “mental difficulties” at some point? That’s a pretty all-encompassing statement.
[QUOTE=Ben]He also renounced all his nonsense about aliens…[/QUOTE]
No he hasn’t! And you know it. And it's not "nonsense."
[QUOTE=Ben]…and people under the sea and that Scotland was going to dissapear (It was only watched by about 12 million people). [/QUOTE]
So he screwed up and made a bogus prediction on national TV 13 years ago. So what? That was way before he even began publishing books on his take on the New World Order conspiracy; he didn’t even start talking about the reptilian/alien connection until 1999, in his book The Biggest Secret. He’s come a long way since 1991; considering the plausibility of his current theories, I don’t think it really matters that he made such a misstep ages ago.
[QUOTE=Ben]You appear quite the sceptic...which is healthy...but if you want to follow the deluded when there's someone offering you a lifeline you go right ahead. Good luck in your quest!

Ben[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Drosophila]I'm going to have to read a bunch of books, just to know what the guy is talking about? Why can't you give us some outcuts of the theories, like how do you tell real crop cirles from fake ones? [/QUOTE]
Within the first page of the essay, there are nutshell versions of both David Icke’s theory and a summary of the characteristics of genuine crop circles.

Drosophila, did you actually read my essay, or did you just skim through it?
[QUOTE=Drosophila]If you made a theory, you COULD just pick all the crop circles that could be translated into fitting the theory, and isn't proven without a doubt to be fake. For instance, I say:
The universe is made by the pancake people.
So I look around for cropcircles that look like they have something to do with pancakes and the universe, like say, interconnecting cirles (pancakes are round, and a circle can symbolize eternity). No problem! [/QUOTE]
Pretty catchy sound-bite you wrote there… but does it really hold up when applied to reality?
[QUOTE=Drosophila]How about some proof from this guy (or you), instead of us having to read all those books and telling you where the holes are?[/QUOTE]
My crop circle essay is chock full of hard proof supporting its specific findings; likewise, so are the books I recommend in the opening of the essay. Must I repeat the whole essay on this thread? Just read the thing.

If you don’t want to go out and pick up a book and you want to know more about David Icke’s theories, he does have a website, although personally I think he gets his point across much more effectively in the more organized format of a book. But here’s the website: http://www.davidicke.com
[QUOTE=Opal princess]The world through Dros's eyes???????or not.........

I just could not help it...there something in the water here makes me..... :cool:

Opal Princess :devil:[/QUOTE]
Finally! Someone posting on this thread who appears to have actually read the whole essay!

[QUOTE=Ben]Ok Scatterdome it's only fair that I should present some evidence, here is the transcript of the Wogan show which Icke appeared on years ago and made an absolute ass of himself. I will post the URL of the source as well. Be warned. David Icke is an Aryan rascist whom I despise…[/QUOTE]
AN ARYAN RACIST? Absolute BS that can be disproven simply by reading Icke’s writings. Ben, you know as well as I do that he is not a racist, not even towards the reptilian race. Then again, the only beings who actually DESPISE Icke tend to be reptilians or high-level Freemasons and the like, who see him as the #1 threat to their race’s survival, meaning some of them naturally feel he’s “out to get” their race and/or their secret club… Ben, do you have any royal connections in your bloodline, by any chance?
[QUOTE=Ben]This transcript broadcast on national TV was made when he went through his 'torquoise period' (Sorry it wasn't purple) and he had been chosen by God to be the NEW JESUS!. [/QUOTE]
What?? That’s not what he said, and you know it. Let’s take a closer look at the quote, everyone:

"Why you?" asked Wogan with an incredulity that reflected the mood of the land. "Why have you been chosen?"

"People would have said the same thing to Jesus," David Icke replied. "Who the heck are you? You're a carpenter's son."

Note that Icke said nothing about being “chosen by God,” nor did he say he was the new Jesus. His analogy was no more a proclamation of being a messiah than was John Lennon’s infamous quote that the Beatles were “bigger than Jesus,” which was similarly distorted out of context in the Illuminati-controlled media, resulting in Beatle-album burnings across the U.S.

Here’s another chunk from the article which you posted:

"There was a piece of compelling evidence that David Icke did mean Jews when he said lizards. Buried somewhere in the middle of his hundreds of thousands of published words is a short paean to the Protocols of Zion - the absurd 19th-century Tsarist forgery proclaiming to be the minutes of a meeting of the Jewish secret rulers of the world: "Protocol 9: The weapons in our hands are limitless ambition, burning greediness, merciless vengeance, hatred and malice. It is from us that all-engulfing terror proceeds . . . We will not give [the people of the world] peace until they openly acknowledge our international Super-Government."”

Once again, a gross distortion of the facts, accomplished by the author by grabbing that quote from the Protocols completely out of the context in which Icke presented it.

The Protocols of Zion are a general statement of the Illuminati’s Machiavellian modus operandi; the text was intentionally disguised to APPEAR to be a Jewish conspiracy, in case it should ever be found by anyone out of the loop. If you replace the word “Jews” with “Illuminati” and “gentiles” with “the masses” in the text of the Protocols, then you have the true meaning of the Protocols; it actually has nothing to do with Jews at all. Planting false evidence of a Jewish conspiracy, such as the Protocols of Zion, is one of the many smokescreens the Illuminati have thrown up over the ages to cover up the fact that the REAL global conspiracy is a coalition of royal/reptilian bloodlines, whose leaders have no allegiance to any country or religion; their allegiance is strictly to the New World Order plan, even when they have genuine in-fights amongst themselves.

This is the true context in which Icke presents the Protocols of Zion in his book.

So do you actually believe that when Icke says “lizards,” he means “Jews?” That claim is absolute propaganda-rubbish, on whose survival is utterly dependent on people who will believe anything they read in the paper, without examining the subject matter for themselves.

Anyone who has actually read Icke’s writings can see for themselves that 1) Yes, he means LIZARDS when he says “lizards,”, and 2) he is about as far from an Anti-Semite as a person can get. As the biased article you posted somehow managed to admit,
“In the days that followed this TV debate, some of the [anti-Icke] coalition began privately admitting to me that the whole thing was beginning to backfire. David Icke's fans were not, by and large, anti-Semites. It was more alarming than that. They were, in fact, the coalition's core constituents - liberals and anti-racists and left-wingers concerned with the perils of global capitalism.”

All a person has to do to find out that David Icke is not an anti-Semite is to read any of his writings on the subject of Jews. Before any of you get ready to complain about that statement, keep in mind the following quote from Albert Einstein:
“Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.”

David Icke says the same thing about Jewish leaders as he says about Christian leaders, Muslim leaders and all the rest— that they are lying to their followers about many important things, as are pretty much all world leaders. He is an “equal-opportunity muckraker.”
[QUOTE=Ben]For the full story of Icke's madness (When he believed he was Jesus) and the clear racism of him go to http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story...,457988,00.html [/QUOTE]
CLEAR RACISM? BELIEVED HE WAS JESUS?
[QUOTE=Ben]In this country (Sorry don't know where you are) The Guardian is one of our most respected newspapers. [/QUOTE]
Right… and over here, CNN is “America’s Most Trusted News Network,” as its viewers are reminded by the network every 10 minutes. The article you provided attempted to appear as if it’s presenting “both sides,” despite its lack of anything close to a proper summary of Icke’s theories in its sprawling 2 web pages worth of text—and then it blows its cover by ending the article with a sucker-punch claim that reeks of 100% BS:

“And, as the anti-racists slipped quietly away, a few members of David's entourage grinned behind their hands. Later, over dinner, I heard one of them murmur, ‘Well, the fat Jews f***ed up.’”

Do you believe that that comment was actually overheard? I sure don’t. Why would an anti-Semite be in the entourage of David Icke, who is as far from an anti-Semite as one can get? Answer: this was a fabricated statement by the “reporter.”.
[QUOTE=Ben]Oh and Scatterdome...with the greatest of respect.....I am one of our country's most outspoken people.... [/QUOTE]
Really? What’s your name?
[QUOTE=Ben]I normally never speak unless I know what I'm talking about, gotta pick my words carefully. [/QUOTE]
Then I would suggest you better start picking them more carefully… all it takes for anyone to discover that you DON’T know what you are talking about regarding the tired, oft-recycled accusation that David Icke is an anti-Semite, is to simply read one of Icke’s writings on the subject in its full, proper context.
[QUOTE=Ben]I too get the same media attention but fortunately, I'm not mad! Recently I've been quiet.....Mmmm you may have given me some inspiration to shout again! [/QUOTE]
OK-- please give us a link showing the kind of media attention you get; I’m curious.
[QUOTE=Darla]Yup......David Icke...100% nutcase.

Backed you up eventually Ben...forgot about this thread.
Better late than never.[/QUOTE]
OK, Darla, I have two questions for you:
1) Have you actually read any of David Icke’s recent books?
2) Have you actually read the essay that this thread is supposed to be discussing?

OK, people… sit back and note how this thread is unfolding. So far, for some reason it consists almost entirely of unsubstantiated attacks on David Icke, who is but one of the many authors on whose work my essay is based-- and so far noone has even mentioned anything about my essay, which is supposed to be the topic of his thread.

Why is this? If my finding at Howell is ridiculous, why hasn’t anyone managed to comment on it yet? To those who find it implausible: where’s the hole in the theory about the Howell formation?

And are those who DO find the essay plausible too scared to express their support in such a public format, since they too know it’s way too close to the truth and don’t want to be noticed by the Illuminati and/or kicked off this forum?

The simplest explanation is: my essay IS “way too close to the truth,” and the fact that much of it is based on the work of Icke, among many others, only gives it strength. Although I mention many other authors exploring the same theory, it is Icke (as usual) who is naturally drawing all the fire, in a barrage of debunking by people who are clearly unfamiliar with his theory. This is because he is both the most popular and the furthest along among the many authors working within this same theory- and thus, Icke represents the biggest threat both to Illuminati types and to average Joes who desperately feel a need to defend their antiquated belief systems, logic be damned.

So far, on this thread , all this groundless Icke-bashing has been quite distracting from any possible intelligent conversation, too… Boy, I bet many of you already plum forgot about the essay I’ve been trying to get you all to read, didn’t you? Pretty effective misinformation technique, eh?

And once again, after 4 years, I am STILL waiting for someone to point out a hole in Icke’s overall theory; all I’ve heard to date are character attacks based on quotes taken out of context, outright lies, and examples of, say, how he made a ridiculously incorrect, bold prediction on TV 13 years ago, during his rocky transition phase from soccer star to conspiracy theorist, well before he even came up with his take on the Illuminati/NWO theory.

Why are these the only type of anti-Icke comments I’ve heard in 4 years? The simplest explanation: because he is right—no one can find a hole in his overall theory BECAUSE THERE IS NO HOLE, and this BS about him being “crazy” and an “anti-Semite” is the best that anyone trying to debunk him can come up with.

So, somebody, please prove me wrong and tell me where the hole in Icke’s overall theory is. If you have not read any of his writings, then do not reply, for you would be embarrassing yourself.

And what about my findings at Howell? Does anyone have anything to say about that, finally?

Once again, here’s the link to my essay:
http://www.scatterdome.com/howell.htm