To anyone interested…

I will no longer be posting on this Forum. It is one thing to be posting on a Forum where some boards are focused on UFOs (=True Unknowns=PAN-D), and quite another to be posting on a Forum where paedophiles are free to roam on! It DOES seem to be the case, and so I want to be no part of it!!!

I hate to lose friends as much (and possibly even more) as you do. My true friends will understand the stand I’m taking.

Goodbye everyone. It’s been a wonderful journey in your company.

Truly sorry if I ever was an annoyance.

Go in love and fortune.

Best regards,
Allison

Please don't go!

Maybe I didn't see the posts you were talking about. I was not aware of any pediophile posts.

I have children myself. I have always believed and continue to believe that every adult is responsible for the safety and welfare of every child.

If you know of a post please put a link here. It would be better to root out such activity and try to expose them than run from them. If they post such offensive material then they are active with it and should be exposed and arrested.

Jail is where they belong.

I had no idea about pedophile posts but I tell you what, if I did shit would hit the fan and they would be reported. I am so sorry you had to read whatever it was, it couldn't have been comfortable for you. I myself an a survivor of child sexual abuse so I have a huge heart for anyone who understands and supports the efforts to eliminate this trash roaming around the net and the streets. I hope you don't go though and just report the post to the administrators for deletion and banning of this member. Cause if you leave, that just means that nasty person gets what they want. They GET to roam around more without notice. I think you are bringing this INTO the light for others to be aware about this creep. Sad thing is, there may be one obvious pedophile out there but there are probably many more on this forum we don't even know about. So I would advise you to not leave and instead report this and fight back by saying you won't let this get to you on this level because you DESERVE to be here, not the pedophile. Don't give him that satisfaction.

SL

Pedophiles? Where? They should be banned. Where did this happen? I'm sorry. I really don't want you to go. Wait ... are you talking about the Raelians thread?

This post has been edited by kirin-rex: Jun 29 2008, 05:35 PM

Where are the pedophiles? Surely the first post they fart from that thing they call a brain would get them not only banned but also reported to the authorities.

Senhaun...there is a new found respect for you hun. Thank you for saying that. We need more people like you in the world.

The only 'mention' of pedophiles (forgive my US spelling) that I've seen was this:
http://www.alien-ufos.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=361520



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I'm assuming it was in response to this:
http://www.alien-ufos.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=361025

The signature says:


Josh talks about Raelians in his post.

Now, afterward, there were posts by Dundee and Wodan, but they are in NO way condoning pedophilia. Allison, I don't know if this is the thread that caused you to want to leave, however, Dundee and Wodan aren't arguing against you. On the contrary, Dundee openly shows he disagrees with Rael, and Wodan's only contention seems to be that Rael's claim (that he is Jesus's half-brother, that Elohim of the bible was an alien, that he met Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, and Moses, etc.) is, In Wodan's opinion, not really so different than the foundations of many religions. On that, I agree, though I also think Rael is wacky.

So again, I don't know if this is the thread that made you want to say goodbye, but I don't think anyone on this thread is showing tolerance for pedophilia, nor is any member on that thread, to my knowledge, a pedophile.

I'm sorry if the thread hit a sore spot with you, but I don't think any of us so far have disagreed with or shown disbelief in your statements.

Hmm, I see. So it's Raelism. I have no love for that fraud. But that aside, people who make excuses for acts of sexual abuse towards minors (or anyone else for that matter) should not be a reason to leave an otherwise great forum.

Not sure if it's just TALK of pedophilia or if she knows someone who is a pedophile on the site but as Kirin said, it's not tolerated here. Maybe overlooked at times cause the board is very busy, but I know the admins would not just let something like that slide.

Thank you Kirin for all of the research you did today. Hugs!

Hi all

I have said that I no longer want to post on this Forum, and you make me post again lol

Yes, I don’t want to post on a Forum which tolerates Raëliens. Forums in France have to “obey” a simple rule: whenever a person talks about, or post a hyperlink to (etc.), a movement or cult that has been put on the list of dangerous cults/movements, this person is banned. Is it intolerance?
Raëliens have been condemned several times for paedophilia/incest/child abuse. And there are several legal proceedings still pending against them, and against Mr. Vorilhon (a.k.a. Raël). (That’s why he fled away in 2003. But it’s another story.) Other legal proceedings against him/them involve (1) financial suits (swindling/scams, etc), and (2) mental manipulations against individuals. That’s why France is ‘intolerant’ against this ‘Movement’.
I perfectly understood what Dundee and Wodan said in their posts. But I did bring up some points that even you Kirin did not know. And you said so in post#361731.
Have you got knowledge of what Vorilhon is trying to do? Of his pseudo-scientific experiments? Put it simply, the young women he selects all risk their own life in taking part in his cloning experiments. And the authorities where he’s hiding now – well, they seem to do nothing, I’m afraid.
This cult is dangerous, this Forum tolerates Raëliens, and thus I want to be no part of it!!

Best regards,
Allison

Looks like a job for someone with authority to put down rules on how this forum will treat Raelism in general.

Can't say i have ever heard of them, but if this is true(Not that i doubt you Allison), then they and their group should not be posted about,or mentioned on this site no matter what the disscusion on the subject is.....

Why not? Paedophiles are a topic of discussion, as are Nazis, terrorists and so on. Just as long as actual paedophiles, terrorists and Nazis are not here posting it is okay.

Know thy enemy.

you have to draw the line somwhere and peadophilia is not summin that needs to be discusssed here,it is not relevant and just draws the wrong type of image,it is not a free for all talk about anything otherwise we could discuss necrophillia,sadism,masochism,beastiality can you see where i'm heading.This forum is called Alien Ufos not pervs r us dot com.

Well, I have seen many threads created in the Terrorism, Politics, Serious Discussion and Current Events forum about paedophilia. I am sure that all of the topics you mentioned have cropped up too. Just because they are discussed does not mean that they are advocated.

I think discussing it is not the Original Poster's problem. It's the fact that Raelism seems to promote such things through the way they carry themselves and through their so-called philosophies and camps. And the fact that these people are openly admitting as being Raelians on many public forums and daring to lash back at people for 'persecuting' their 'religious beliefs'.

In was gone from Friday til last night.

There is always going to be topics and discussions that will touch upon things that are upsetting.
Why not just avoid these catagories that produce this and post in the ones that mostly don't?



So there are new members you object to as well, allison?

I posted this on the other thread, but I'll post it here:

I've been thinking about this and I want to add something here:
(1) Josh has not admitted here to ANY crimes, nor has he said anything to suggest he condones any crimes.
(2) To ban a member for being a member of religion, or to ban discussion of a religion because we do not agree with it, is something I'm not comfortable with.

If Josh were to say that he thinks sex with children is okay, I would say ban him. If he had claimed to have done it, I would contact international authorities. However, he has done neither. In fact, the suggestion has outraged him.

Just because we don't agree with his religion is no reason to ban him or to ban discussion of it.

I'd agree with SD on this one: if we don't feel comfortable with a certain discussion, we should probably just stay clear.

In fact, the suggestion has outraged him.
That’s usually their tactics. As Mr. Vorilhon teachings tend to take the guilty feelings out of the cult’s member(s). BUT there are many reasons for doubting. Once again, Mr. Vorilhon has never repudiated, disavowed, or rejected what he’s written in his ‘Enseignements’ (teachings). Things like:

“To say nothing about sexual matters to children is wrong. To explain to them how they can use their sexual organs is better, but it’s still not enough. You must show them and explain to them how they can take advantage of their sexual organs, so that they can have an orgasm.” Quoted from “Le Vrai visage de Dieu” (the True Face of God) – Conseils aux parents (Advices to parents).

So there are new members you object to as well, allison? Will Nazis and/or racists do?

Making me feel guilty for being right? Ok, I accept your point of view. ‘Ostrich policy' is always the best course, or so it seems. I hear that Mr. Vorilhon is hiding in Canada, or the US. One word of advice: do keep tabs on him! And keep an even closer watch on your children. You’ve got a monster living in your country.

One last thing: If Vorilhon (aka Rael) has nothing to be afraid of, why does he NOT come back to France?

Nazis, Racists, & Raëliens - Rejoice, I'm quitting.

Are you happy now SD?

Best regards,
Allison