I have read quite a lot of your board and most if not all of the content has been copied and pasted from other websites

This is work people have spent many hours investigating why dont you do your own research instead of plagerising others hard work ?????????

In your rules you say no use of copy righted material yet you have stolen articles and pictures from my website cosmic conspiracies (www.ufos-aliens.co.uk) i think you need to do your own research instaed of relying on others to do the job for you

Mostly this site is a discussion form. Work of others referred to here is usually a link to their site.

Thanks for the link to your site. Ill check it out. I noticed on the first page is a link to Nick Pope vid. Did you produce it?

all that work is mine...give it back!!!

lttle.....personally I use research of others as information and then connect a number of such sources to form my own opinion.....then use them as references....

Many others quote them or actually just post them as a link just to bring them to the forum.

But because of your wonderful post we will make sure never to do it again for fear of being eaten alive by you.

Wow did you really investigate all those cases on your site and make all those videos...damn your good, so tell us what were betty and barney hill like,? did they mind you taking those photos and putting them on your site.?..Oh No wait sorry i'm wrong you didn't take them someone else did the same with the videos.....

If i may make a surgestion, next time engage your brain before opening your gob, or using your fingers to type in this case, because all you have done on your site is rehashed cases that others have investigated before.....

yes fenstar i did know betty hill and lots of the things are exclusive when betty was dying of cancer she contacted us and asked us to release prevously unseen pictures and articles she had in her archive

also fenstar many many articles are brand new cases like the chupacabra when we published the first body of a chupa and also the morphing metal article which incidently our site was taken down for 3 days by a militry source after us releasing that so fenstar i suggest its you who needs to investigate

Got any proof of what you claim, also showing us a link to what you claim has been plagiarized would help, instead of coming here stamping your feet like a little kid......

Fenstar,

I'm calling shenanigans on this guy. All might have been somewhat true somewhere on this mass forum, but that Betty Hill comment was just over the top. He just wants free advertising for something. I'm pretty sure if anyone plagiarized this guy it was either a joke or a huge lapse in judgment. Next he'll tell you has been contacted by entities and he knows things he can't quite tell us fully until the right time. Or he knows an inside guy that works at Area 51. However, all will be well if you buy some space stones from his website that will heal your body and spirit. Just send 300 bucks. I'd go to his website, but more than likely it'll give you some nice malware.

What I'm trying to say here is, it's...guess...you all know me...what's my favorite phrase....wait for it....just a little more....here it comes.... CRAP!

i dont need any free advertising mate i have one of the largest ufo websites in the world and advertising isnt neccessary lol its reputation what gets you noticed not and not hear say

This is a public discussion forum. Of course people will be commenting on things they heard elsewhere. Get over yourself! Who do you think you are coming on here and shitting on us? People like you make me sick. Go have your brain fart elsewhere.

Coming onto a friendly forum and instead of sharing and striving towards the truth and disclosure, you worry about authorship. This puts you into the so-called paranormal investigators who are only after one thing - money and popularity. Such people, in my humble opinion, do not deserve to be called any kind of investigator.

Going over your website, I'm not seeing anything that is new information not put forth by authors before you. Do you do your own interviews and intense research? If so, which articles are those? Where's your references? If I were to do my own research on your claims, would I be able to see the exact same materials as yourselves, or even interview the same people if still alive?

Such as your Roswell article. Did you go there and investigate, or just quote what others have put forth? How about your Area 51 article? Been there, or just use photos that anyone can find?

90% of research is done in the library so to speak. There's thousands of researchers that make a lovely living by rewriting what they found in a library, then arranging their data so their personal beliefs can sound true. (Jordan Maxwell, David Icke)

I doubt there is one post here that was posted as if it were the poster's own words if it belonged to someone else. If so you would have given your examples already. I still say you are looking for advertising.

The best thing you should have done is have gone to the introduction section and introduce yourself properly instead of complaining about problems that don't exist and getting some of the folks here stirred up.

Then why don't you just piss off you little dipship and stop making trouble, and while your at it, don't come back. If you are the wonderfully experienced investigator you pretend to be, you would not be posting this crap. Now go home to Mummy before I tell on you!!!

People like you really annoy me so I am not going to leave this...

1. I can assure you that their are people on this forum who's research, real research would make anything you claim to do look like a high school project. And they don't need to prove there credentials to anyone, least of all you.

2. The rest of us, are just a bunch of average people who gather together to discuss things we have seen. That would include things we have seen on TV, magazines, the internet and so on. Thats how most forums work.

3. By your thinking no one can talk about, nor cite anything unless they have personall experienced it. So I guess that if the Hills were not friends with every person on earth, then anyone who has penned a comment about them, ids gulity of "plaigarising work"
By your thinking a forum on christianity would only be populated by people who have "found god" or studied religion.

4. If you had any respect at all for a forum and the people on it, you would have had an understanding of this and not posted the twaddle that you did.

The people on this forum are good people, some are younger kids, do you expect them to have the life experiences of a 50 year old researcher?
You need to reconsider your motivation for your idiotic attack on this forum and its members. AU has well and truly paid its dues on the internet.

This post has been edited by Dundee: Jun 30 2008, 04:19 PM

First of all, if it weren't for investigators such as myself, you wouldn't have any UFO information on the internet to read. Is there actually any original content on this discussion forum that has been investigated by its owners or is every article stolen from other sources?

Do you believe that all good investigators just copy and paste their information without even bothering to investigate to see if the information is correct? And as far as trying to accuse me of making money from my website. I have never made ANY money from it. You don't have to sell advertising space (which incidentally this website does at $25 a month) to be successful. The biggest compliment any author can get is when somebody gets recommended to visit their website because the information on it is good and original. You can also earn money by writing a book on your chosen subject. Do you know how long it takes to write a book? Do you really have a clue?

Yes, there are articles on my website regarding subjects that you will find on other UFO websites, but those articles are written by either myself or one of the other contributors to my website. I don't copy and paste a whole article from somebody elses website or just change a few words around in the article because I cant be assed to do the research myself.

Take this post at http://www.alien-ufos.com/Apollo-Hoax-t204...;hl=apollo+hoax for example. This was lifted from my website a long time ago. At the time the guy wrote to me and asked for permission to use the information for his website (which at the time was not a forum like it is now, but a website with pages on the UFO subject. Since then it appears that there have been several other articles lifted from my site without my prior knowledge and which are copyrighted material which this person hasn't asked my permission to use.

There is another article about the Loch Ness Monster at http://www.alien-ufos.com/thoughts-photo-Nessie-t20544.html It shows a picture that I actually captured myself from the Loch Ness webcam. Nowhere in the article does it refer to my website or present any other information about how the picture was taken.

And again at http://www.alien-ufos.com/UFO-Fleet-Filmed...l&hl=harley This was an exclusive to my website which was investigated by our research team. The UFO witness gave my website exclusive rights to use his UFO pictures and there is even a statement at the bottom of the page that says 'All images and film footage Copyright of Gene Harley and Cosmic Conspiracies. Footage/photos can only be used with prior permission - thank you.' What part of that sentence is so hard to understand?

Why do you think I would want many of my articles on a web discussion group? Whats wrong with just linking to my article? After all, shouldn't I be the person getting the credit for writing the article in the first place?

Under the rules of this forum it states:



Not only have these rules been broken, in some cases the owner has broken them himself by posting copyrighted material without even having the decency to ask for permission from the original author.

Having just browsed this website for 30 minutes, I have already found 3 articles lifted from my website. I also find it incredible that the website owner claims that this website is 'the worlds largest and oldest Alien and UFO community with thousands of members and millions of topics!' when it was only started in January 2002. My own website started in 1999 and has many more pages and information and what about 'Black Vault'??? The Worlds largest UFO database.

It's absolutely fine for you all to come back and start arguing that there's nothing wrong with this website using other authors material without their knowledge, but perhaps you would have a different outlook if a work colleague of yours decided that tomorrow, all the work that you had done, he will claim as his own and expect for all the other people in your workplace to congratulate him on 'a job well done', when the truth of the matter is, he just said it was his own work because he was lazy.

This post has been edited by littlegreys: Jun 30 2008, 04:39 PM

Wow that was a real adult reply. Like I'm seriously going to take any notice of what you have to say with an attitude like that!

Word biting without answering the real comments. Thats exactly what I expected of your kind of poster.

Guys: it's not worth communicating with this person. I know I am not going to waste another second on replies.

No - don't get me wrong. I have been a member of UFO forums for many years. I have no problem with people discussing anything, but there comes a time and a place when you need to just link to the article so that people can go and see the article, , and perhaps also browse the rest of that website. I am a member of Bad Astronomy and know for a fact that there are strict rules on copyrighted material on their forum. Moderators quickly remove quoted text and replace them with a link to the original website.

What you have to realise is that when you copy an authors work, you are also copying his thoughts. Then you are going into forums debating on the back of the authors hard research without actually asking him for an opinion. You can also misquote or misunderstand what that author originally intended their article to mean. But, not only does this website take articles, it also takes pictures that are copyrighted to my website too.

Please tell me why you think that is fair?

But to answer your questions...

1. I can assure you that their are people on this forum who's research, real research would make anything you claim to do look like a high school project. And they don't need to prove there credentials to anyone, least of all you.

Our research is 'real' too. Try taking a look at the Chupacabras article on my website. Although I live in the UK, and this event happened in Nicaragua, I was the first investigator to fully research this incident. I contacted the local newsreporter who wrote the original article and my articles appeared on Jeff Rense and in UFO Magazine. Also you will find that my Apollo Hoax article is the internets most popular article on the subject. I have appeared on numerous radio and TV shows regarding the article and was a regular contributor (as were my co-authors) for UFO Magazine in the UK until it closed down due to the owners death.

Another exclusive article is the Surveyor III hoax. I will not go into too much detail here, but if you read the article, you will find that I have more than done my fair share of research on the subject and even corrected a mistake made by David Percy and Mary Bennett who made the video 'What happened on the Moon' and wrote the book 'Dark Moon.' Then there is the article on 'The Smoking Gun NASA footage regarding 'the tether incident.' Once again, an article which was featured in UFO Magazine.

I find it funny that you want to label me as not doing research when in fact I am included in the newly published book '“Biographical Encyclopedia of People in Ufology and Scientific Extraterrestrial Research". To use a quote from the New York Monthly Herald, they said 'If a ufologist's profile entry includes statements and an article -no matter how small it is - this could be considered as an indication or a reference to an important status. Those who fell into this category are unquestionably the most influential ufologists. I will not spoil the game nor the suspense, read the book and be your own judge. But it is worth mentioning that the following names occupied a privileged position in Lafayette's encyclopedia: has every well known researcher who is regarded at the top of their field in it.' And then it goes on to mention several of the top players, including myself.

Please tell me where else you could read about 'morphing metals' prior to my website breaking the story in 2001? That subject was so sensitive that on the week that we announced that we were releasing info on that weekend, we were hit by a US Government office that was registered as visiting our website every 4 seconds for 48 hours. It took down our website because our server could not deal with the traffic.

2. The rest of us, are just a bunch of average people who gather together to discuss things we have seen. That would include things we have seen on TV, magazines, the internet and so on. Thats how most forums work.

There is nothing wrong with that. But there is such an act which is called 'fair use.' What that means is that you can quote certain articles from authors, but not take a substantial amount of their article unless you have prior permission.

3. By your thinking no one can talk about, nor cite anything unless they have personall experienced it. So I guess that if the Hills were not friends with every person on earth, then anyone who has penned a comment about them, ids gulity of "plaigarising work"
By your thinking a forum on christianity would only be populated by people who have "found god" or studied religion.

Now your taking things out of context.

4. If you had any respect at all for a forum and the people on it, you would have had an understanding of this and not posted the twaddle that you did.

The people on this forum are good people, some are younger kids, do you expect them to have the life experiences of a 50 year old researcher?