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> In case you needed to know whose side the UN is on..., Look no further than this picture
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post Jul 17 2008, 11:06 AM
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http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/ph...4de0eefdc89ae5/

This is a Yahoo News hosted AP photograph, so it is not likely to last very long before the link goes dead.

Anyway, the UN "peacekeepers" are shown here saluting the coffins of Hezbollah and Palestinian fighters. Photographed on the placard is the dead Hezbollah leader, Imad Mughniyeh, mastermind of the barracks bombing at the Beirut International Airport in 1983, which killed 241 Marines and 58 French servicemen as well as a handful of civilians. Hezbollah is not the Lebanese military, it is a terrorist group merely operating within Lebanon and beyond the control of the government., so these dead terrorists are not requiring of gushing admiration and respect from international "peacekeeping" forces.
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post Jul 17 2008, 11:06 AM
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post Jul 17 2008, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE (Andrew @ Jul 17 2008, 05:06 PM) *
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/ph...4de0eefdc89ae5/

This is a Yahoo News hosted AP photograph, so it is not likely to last very long before the link goes dead.

Anyway, the UN "peacekeepers" are shown here saluting the coffins of Hezbollah and Palestinian fighters. Photographed on the placard is the dead Hezbollah leader, Imad Mughniyeh, mastermind of the barracks bombing at the Beirut International Airport in 1983, which killed 241 Marines and 58 French servicemen as well as a handful of civilians. Hezbollah is not the Lebanese military, it is a terrorist group merely operating within Lebanon and beyond the control of the government., so these dead terrorists are not requiring of gushing admiration and respect from international "peacekeeping" forces.


No surprise there...the world bows at Allah's feet, eh...

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post Jul 17 2008, 02:08 PM
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'When in Rome, do as the Romans' perhaps.


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post Jul 17 2008, 02:51 PM
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that is wrong, just like one of the released prisoners who was given the red carpet treatment and greeted as a hero, and what was his heroic military action oh yes he killed a little girl and her father...They are nothing but fucking barbaric cowards.....

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post Jul 17 2008, 06:07 PM
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The American military forces are known for acts of total barbarism and disrespect as well.
It seems that when they get a uniform on, they feel they no longer need be responsible for their actions.
They are not all like that. It doesn't take many, to make them all look bad.


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post Jul 17 2008, 09:21 PM
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so they showed respect to the dead what da problem is? pretty obvious who's side your on too.
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post Jul 17 2008, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ Jul 17 2008, 07:07 PM) *
The American military forces are known for acts of total barbarism and disrespect as well.
It seems that when they get a uniform on, they feel they no longer need be desposible for their actions.
They are not all like that. It doesn't take many, to make them all look bad.



great post SD,

i totally agree, they are not all like that. my grandfather was a naval electrician from the phillipines, he was a decent simple and honorable as well as a highly patriotic man, he was proud to serve the u.s. military.


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post Jul 18 2008, 03:00 AM
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QUOTE (Mandelasdiscple @ Jul 18 2008, 04:21 AM) *
so they showed respect to the dead what da problem is? pretty obvious who's side your on too.


You know damn well what the problem is, but i'm not even going to bother with you Mande because your just spoiling for an argument as usual.... rolleyessmileyanim.gif


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post Jul 18 2008, 03:17 AM
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respect for the dead? you have respect for those who have lived helping others,those who do the right thing,Terrorists do not come into that category,they come under the heading 'sub-human',and should be treated as thus.this situation is going to go tits up.Isreal will go to war..gaza and the west bank will become part of isreal.palestinians will become second class in thier own country,which has slowly become overun by isreal with the assistance of america.

The UN who stood by in bosnia as the serbs carried out ethnic cleansing.the UN are a joke,just another western army with ideals and will assist only when its own interests at heart.
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post Jul 18 2008, 05:24 AM
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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ Jul 18 2008, 01:07 AM) *
The American military forces are known for acts of total barbarism and disrespect as well.
It seems that when they get a uniform on, they feel they no longer need be desposible for their actions.
They are not all like that. It doesn't take many, to make them all look bad.

Some differences:

1. The US military does not commit atrocities against civilians as a matter of policy, Hezbollah does.

2. If any atrocities committed by US soldiers come to light, the accused will stand trial and if convicted face prison. In Hezbollah, they will not.
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QUOTE (Andrew @ Jul 18 2008, 12:24 PM) *
Some differences:

1. The US military does not commit atrocities against civilians as a matter of policy, Hezbollah does.

2. If any atrocities committed by US soldiers come to light, the accused will stand trial and if convicted face prison. In Hezbollah, they will not.

it dosen't????what about hiroshima,nagasaki,vietnam,iraq,afganistan.More civillians have died than insurgents.if thats not an attrocity then i'm batman and robin.
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post Jul 18 2008, 06:08 AM
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QUOTE (macdaddy @ Jul 18 2008, 01:07 PM) *
it dosen't????what about hiroshima,nagasaki,vietnam,iraq,afganistan.More civillians have died than insurgents.if thats not an attrocity then i'm batman and robin.

all sides do it,it helps to generate fear.
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post Jul 18 2008, 06:27 AM
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QUOTE (macdaddy @ Jul 18 2008, 01:07 PM) *
it dosen't????what about hiroshima,nagasaki,vietnam,iraq,afganistan.More civillians have died than insurgents.if thats not an attrocity then i'm batman and robin.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were more than 60 years in the past, the US military does not presently work with World War 2 rules of engagement. More civilians have died in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hands of insurgents than anything else. If you hear in the news that there has been a market bombing in Iraq, or that people have been bombed waiting in line to apply for government jobs, you do not assume that the US military were the perpetrators. Civilians are only killed in either conflict by US soldiers by mistake, or because the culprits were acting unlawfully.
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post Jul 18 2008, 06:29 AM
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QUOTE (macdaddy @ Jul 18 2008, 01:08 PM) *
all sides do it,it helps to generate fear.

Yes, but the US doesn't want to generate fear in Afghanistan or Iraq because that is counter-productive to their goal. The terrorist forces in both countries do want to generate fear, however.
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QUOTE (Andrew @ Jul 18 2008, 05:24 AM) *
Some differences:

1. The US military does not commit atrocities against civilians as a matter of policy, Hezbollah does.

2. If any atrocities committed by US soldiers come to light, the accused will stand trial and if convicted face prison. In Hezbollah, they will not.


Indeed, but atrocities will only get acted upon when the puplic learns about them or if the perpertraitor is no officer.

There have been many horror stories told of atrocities done by American soldiers when we went in to get Noriaga. If any were true, I haven't heard anything done about them. To suggest none were true, may be fool hardy.


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post Jul 18 2008, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE (Andrew @ Jul 18 2008, 11:24 AM) *
Some differences:

1. The US military does not commit atrocities against civilians as a matter of policy, Hezbollah does.

2. If any atrocities committed by US soldiers come to light, the accused will stand trial and if convicted face prison. In Hezbollah, they will not.


that is garbage. That may be written somewhere but it is not true.


fenstar, they killed what they considered enemy soldiers just like any other army

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The blue-helmeted peacekeepers in the photograph are presumably Italian, and their predecessors in the Italian army would have been in the Multinational Force in Lebanon, who were the targets of the 1983 Beirut Barracks Bombing which killed 299 of their colleagues from the US Marine Corps and French Army. The UNIFIL itself is completely useless. They say that their purpose is to keep the peace, but they did absolutely nothing when Hezbollah began attacking Israel two years ago. Instead they claim that their function is not to act as a "counter terrorism" force. In other words, they serve no meaningful function except as human shields for Hezbollah and they will deny that they are actually required to give meaning to the "peace keeping" label through any action.
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post Jul 18 2008, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE (Mandelasdiscple @ Jul 18 2008, 02:45 PM) *
that is garbage. That may be written somewhere but it is not true.

Any coherent argument, or is this just another of your baseless pronouncements?
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post Jul 18 2008, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE (Mandelasdiscple @ Jul 18 2008, 02:45 PM) *
fenstar, they killed what they considered enemy soldiers just like any other army


So this man Samir Kantar(see below) who was greeted as a hero, because he killed as you say what he considered enemy soilders....



Does that include the small girl whos skull he smashed against a rock with his rifle after he had shot and killed her father...



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post Jul 18 2008, 01:26 PM
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Is there any action against the state of Israel that you will not excuse, Mandela?
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