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post Jul 21 2008, 07:41 PM
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Okay aliens arrive tomorrow and they are peaceful, and nothing bad happens there are no riots and religion does not collapse, do you think some people will be specist?
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post Jul 21 2008, 07:41 PM
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post Jul 21 2008, 09:00 PM
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I assume you mean speciesism. Yes. I believe there would be a lot of it.
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post Jul 21 2008, 10:51 PM
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Yes, but not many.
It would mostly be a humbling experience for our world.


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post Jul 21 2008, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE (GODCONVOYPRIME @ Jul 21 2008, 07:41 PM) *
Okay aliens arrive tomorrow and they are peaceful, and nothing bad happens there are no riots and religion does not collapse, do you think some people will be specist?


How could religion.... as we currently know it.... still exist? Does anyone else see that the key to world peace and unity is to actually get rid of religion... at least as we currently know it. Once this happens, if it happens, we will finally be on the move from a type 0 civilization to a type 1.

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post Jul 22 2008, 12:12 AM
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Christians and the related religions would have no problem spreading the word to other worlds. If you re-read the bible with that in mind it actually works. But this doesn't need to be a religious thread ya?

ya there would be speciesism just like there's racism now.

hmm, thats a new word for me.
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post Jul 22 2008, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE (adub @ Jul 21 2008, 11:57 PM) *
Does anyone else see that the key to world peace and unity is to actually get rid of religion...


No, I do not see it. Peace and Unity will be achieved when we can tolerate others. Such as what languages they speak, their culture, their nationality, their race, their traditions, political platform, religion etc.





Basically this whole UFO phenomenon is a religion itself;

1.) Everything is because of aliens. Such as our existence and the Bermuda triangle.
2.) The lack of proof is all because of the government cover-ups.



- You have not a evidence alien exist just as I have no evidence God exist.
- I believe God makes everything happen for a reason, you believe aliens make everything happen for a reason.
- I believe God has a plan, you believe aliens have a plan.
- etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.




~ It is human nature to be speciesist. Everyone is speciesist. I am sure you strongly dislike people of the political party XYZ as a whole. It is just how humans are. So, I believe we will be speciesist like we have always been.

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post Jul 22 2008, 01:56 AM
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QUOTE (adub @ Jul 22 2008, 06:57 AM) *
How could religion.... as we currently know it.... still exist? Does anyone else see that the key to world peace and unity is to actually get rid of religion... at least as we currently know it. Once this happens, if it happens, we will finally be on the move from a type 0 civilization to a type 1.


I don't know if it's the Key as such, but getting rid of religion would certainly go a very long way towards it


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post Jul 22 2008, 02:11 AM
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we do not get to a type 1 civilisation until we can control the weather and climate,can walk on mars, and have a base on the moon.type 1 is planetary.type 2 gallactic.type 3 interstellar.

i don't believe it will be a good thing.We humans are not a tolerant species,we don't take kindly to uninvited guests.The governments will see it as a risk to there hold on power and there creation(religion).it will throw religiuos factions in to turmoil,the people will riot,all hell will break loose.the aliens will become targets for a new kind of terrorist,they will call themselves the AAA(the Anti-Alien Army).this will destabiliise relations between us and them.They are now no longer benevolent.
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post Jul 22 2008, 04:16 AM
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No offense to anybody but there is alredy an aliens and religion thread. There will allways be those to crash the party. In my opinion I think there will som specism but if the aliens are as peaceful as they would say they would be I think they would just leave and never come back and not try to kill is all.
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post Jul 22 2008, 04:36 AM
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it is relative!who's crashing who's party..its a forum open to all.
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post Jul 22 2008, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE (Alitalia @ Jul 22 2008, 12:18 AM) *
No, I do not see it. Peace and Unity will be achieved when we can tolerate others. Such as what languages they speak, their culture, their nationality, their race, their traditions, political platform, religion etc.


No, when/if there's peace and unity there will only be one language which will most likely be english. It's about moving from a type 0 to a type 1 civilization.

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post Jul 22 2008, 06:06 PM
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So what kind of tyranny is this? Your personal tyranny that you would like to spread to the rest of the world? Only as long the tyranny is in your favor, huh? I can't have my religion? I can't believe in any god? Is that the answer? What's next, I can't like apple pie because it offends YOU? Grow up!
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post Jul 22 2008, 06:31 PM
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wait.. who are you responding too?
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post Jul 22 2008, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (macdaddy @ Jul 22 2008, 10:36 AM) *
it is relative!who's crashing who's party..its a forum open to all.

Sorry about that. But what I meant by party crashers I meant people who would break the new found peace the earth would be enduring.
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post Jul 22 2008, 09:31 PM
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as for specism.

that only applies, in my observation, to guinea pigs. which is also, something that should and can be abolished...poor animals.

specism is a concept, and also, only applicable, if the "species" on top wants it.

my answer is, personally no, there will not be any specism, unless they choose to display themselves as so, i.e. as gods and such. and as long as they are benvolent, i dont mind, i am welcome to advice so to speak. if they are malevolent, i will fight, i dont care if they have 10000 years advanced technology.

as for religion being abolished. well that is going to take tons of effort in the self realization department.

its not religion thats the problem, its the vulnerability of the religion systems as they exist today.

churches should be taxed, and services should be free, no donation plate.


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post Jul 23 2008, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE (GODCONVOYPRIME @ Jul 22 2008, 01:41 AM) *
Okay aliens arrive tomorrow and they are peaceful, and nothing bad happens there are no riots and religion does not collapse, do you think some people will be specist?

First off, Religion collapse because of aliens? Are you kidding? It would grow exponentially. Your missing the fact that religion is not based off of aliens. Aliens brought religion with them and thus teh presence of aliens in religions. To the primitives of the time, religion was super advanced.
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post Jul 23 2008, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE ((=-M-=) @ Jul 22 2008, 08:31 PM) *
wait.. who are you responding too?



Sorry, responding to the angry ignorant children who repeat the mantras of hatred and foolishness.
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post Jul 30 2008, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (ScottMan @ Jul 23 2008, 09:22 PM) *
First off, Religion collapse because of aliens? Are you kidding? It would grow exponentially. Your missing the fact that religion is not based off of aliens. Aliens brought religion with them and thus teh presence of aliens in religions. To the primitives of the time, religion was super advanced.

Well from what I've heard, one of the reasons why the government won't disclose the obvious truth to the mass public is because they fear that some religions will fall apart. At least that's what I heard. I do not personally hold anything against any religion I'm just saying what I heard.

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post Jul 30 2008, 04:48 PM
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Well that just doesn't seem to make any sence. First, because most governments, including the US, are secular states. Secondly, here in the US religions, their churches, institutions, schools, etc. are tax exempt, so the government would actually benefit from the collapse of religion. But that won't happen, most religions will be able to "absorb" the existance of aliens into their belief systems. There might be a few that might fall apart, but for the most part, since most religions are money-driven, they will find a way to integrate or exploit the fact.
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Okay aliens arrive tomorrow and they are peaceful, and nothing bad happens there are no riots and religion does not collapse, do you think some people will be specist?



What kind of question is that? we are the specist of all species in the Galaxy. If they arrive tomorrow in peace, religion, governments and financial systems would be affected some how if not collapsed at all, so yes, only good things will happen for sure, honestly.
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