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post Sep 26 2008, 11:13 PM
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I am in a point in my life where I am looking at everything that is happening in this world, and everything that is happening in my world, and am currently within a deep conflict with myself. I have meditated alot in an attempt to find a solution to my problems, and the worlds problems, and have lost sleep over it, and it is really effecting my current life. I want to become an architect, or an electronica musician, but at the same time I believe that I am going to stumble on something that will change my life. So far, my mind has decided that everything right now is not going to last forever, that everything happens for a reason, that everything has balance, and many other things, but I am actually placed in a position where I have to choose one thing, or the other. I began to think about this as long as I have been on this forum. I want to pursue my current studies in school, but at the same time I want to prepare for something metaphysical which I don't even know if it exists.
Just an insight into my current life. I feel that if I take the latter, though, something big could happen, and I don't want people to be hurt by any actions that I have taken. I have been trying to, suprisingly, apply the philosophy of illuminism (what the illuminati originally believed in) to my daily life, where I must end conflict within myself before I can end conflict with everything else. I am tired. I will post again when I have more energy. Salutations.


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post Sep 27 2008, 06:07 AM
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It's easy to take the weight of the world on your shoulders and i understand what you're going through. I usually take solace in the knowledge that there's heaps of like-minded people out there who feel the same concern for the current state of the world - together we can begin to implement the much needed changes.

I think you need to 'question everything' because that's the only way to find the answers. Keep your chin up, "the universe tends to unfold as it should" - to quote a line from the movie Harold and Kumar...
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post Sep 27 2008, 09:10 AM
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Thing is, if you base everything you do on the state and affairs of the rest of the world your own life will be a mirror image of it...a mess.
Effecting the world starts with one person at a time. Be the best person you feel you can be and you have essentially made the world a better place by being part of what is good in the world. You do not need mystical experiences.
Persue what you feel happiest with and serves best.


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post Sep 29 2008, 04:28 AM
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Actually, I agree with that... If one is at their best then they contribute towards a better world. To try to fix one huge world problem which is unfixable in that there is no solution for it as such, especially as a lone person, sure can make one feel messed up.

Having a mystical spiritual experience(s) doesn't maketh the man... that's no guarantee the person has goodness, good intent or possesses inner Knowledge... It's the inner you, the inner essence that stands for a lot... However, just as an observer of your posts and attitude from the time you joined this forum, (and from reading in other places where you have posted on occassion), I suspect you'll do well in whatever field you chose...

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post Sep 29 2008, 07:24 PM
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Many metaphysical experiences (from my experience24 years) happen when the inner self is doing what it is supposed to be doing in that moment...sometimes even the simplest action will result in a collection of harmonies that can have a positive or negative impact on yourself or even others.
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IMO. Preparing for 'something metaphysical' is like preparing for a race in which you don't know the finish line. I prefer the surprise. But that's not without saying that there is no preparation...once born you are already running the race of a life time...seems to me that you (c.m.2) still need to find your pace. That will come in time if you allow yourself.

Like I said, I have only circled the great gas fire ball 24 times. I hope the above wasn't too intrusive and if so I apologize.

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Having a mystical spiritual experience(s) doesn't maketh the man... that's no guarantee the person has goodness, good intent or possesses inner Knowledge... It's the inner you, the inner essence that stands for a lot
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That was an uber cool quote and I might just have to re-cycle that one. With your permission Dingo that is.

Peace from the soon to be snow mountains of Colorado,
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post Oct 2 2008, 06:23 PM
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That was an uber cool quote and I might just have to re-cycle that one. With your permission Dingo that is.

Peace from the soon to be snow mountains of Colorado,
Austin

G'day to you from the Dog Kennel... I love it when you pop in... you're so esoterically verbal that it sets me on fire... (How's that?)

Yeah I thought it was pretty okay when I wrote it... I prolly 'stole' it from somewhere, though I don't remember though... you know how it is... you hear stuff and think to yourself, That's pretty okay must remember that and down the track... etc etc... Go for it and I bet you can re-cycle it in such a way that it would sound really mystical and inspirational...

Blimey... I sure know how to suck up eh?

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post Oct 3 2008, 11:48 AM
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Its depressing.

but you have to press on, as do I, as do we all. just be strong.


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post Oct 3 2008, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE (vyrtigo @ Oct 3 2008, 05:48 PM) *
Its depressing.

but you have to press on, as do I, as do we all. just be strong.


Even the darkest depression moments have shown me later the brightest uplifting moments(visa versa)...It's in this wave that we are forced to live, work, eat, and sleep in. If you are not a function of this wave then you do not have the right to participate. We are all in or around the same boat. It all depends on how you want to ride it all out. One thing is for sure. The wave rocks the boat and the boat rocks the wave.

Peace,
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Blimey... I sure know how to suck up eh?

I had to google 'esoterically' lol thanks didn't know I could do such a thing to a flea bitten dog...you ever need help with the fleas'...feel free...unless your all co-existing happily.

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post Oct 6 2008, 03:12 AM
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This thread is called questioning everything.

I would encourage all to do so.

but just let it be known, that when i have chose to question things. ALL I GET IS RIDICULED AND DISRESPECTED.



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post Oct 30 2008, 05:54 AM
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QUOTE (vyrtigo @ Oct 6 2008, 09:12 AM) *
This thread is called questioning everything.

I would encourage all to do so.

but just let it be known, that when i have chose to question things. ALL I GET IS RIDICULED AND DISRESPECTED.

Only when you question the obvious,to be perfectly honest.No one ridicules on here for long and respect is earned not given.
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post Oct 30 2008, 07:08 AM
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Only advice I use is an old,old, old quote.


Let your conscious be your guide. It will never fail you no matter what happens around you or to you. To now you stayed true to yourself is what matters.


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post Oct 30 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (c.m.2 @ Sep 27 2008, 05:13 AM) *
I am in a point in my life where I am looking at everything that is happening in this world, and everything that is happening in my world, and am currently within a deep conflict with myself. I have meditated alot in an attempt to find a solution to my problems, and the worlds problems, and have lost sleep over it, and it is really effecting my current life. I want to become an architect, or an electronica musician, but at the same time I believe that I am going to stumble on something that will change my life. So far, my mind has decided that everything right now is not going to last forever, that everything happens for a reason, that everything has balance, and many other things, but I am actually placed in a position where I have to choose one thing, or the other. I began to think about this as long as I have been on this forum. I want to pursue my current studies in school, but at the same time I want to prepare for something metaphysical which I don't even know if it exists.
Just an insight into my current life. I feel that if I take the latter, though, something big could happen, and I don't want people to be hurt by any actions that I have taken. I have been trying to, suprisingly, apply the philosophy of illuminism (what the illuminati originally believed in) to my daily life, where I must end conflict within myself before I can end conflict with everything else. I am tired. I will post again when I have more energy. Salutations.


You sound like you are an in-decisive person...what gave that away? Anyway, my advice is, just make a choice. If you wait around long enough, life will pass you by. Not being able to make a choice to go one way or the other is just as bad as making the wrong choice, because any number of things could happen to you while you wait.

I want you to think back for a second, to when you where a small child, standing at the edge of a pool, trying to muster the courage to jump in the deep end. Are you the kid who waited in fear until he was pushed in by the older childern, then thrashed in terror until you made your way to the side? Or did you finally summon the courage to jump in and experience that it was fun, once you got past your fear?

Make a choice! Hesistation will get you pushed into a lot of things you won't like.


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post Nov 3 2008, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE (DisproveU @ Oct 31 2008, 02:33 AM) *
You sound like you are an in-decisive person...what gave that away? Anyway, my advice is, just make a choice. If you wait around long enough, life will pass you by. Not being able to make a choice to go one way or the other is just as bad as making the wrong choice, because any number of things could happen to you while you wait.

I want you to think back for a second, to when you where a small child, standing at the edge of a pool, trying to muster the courage to jump in the deep end. Are you the kid who waited in fear until he was pushed in by the older childern, then thrashed in terror until you made your way to the side? Or did you finally summon the courage to jump in and experience that it was fun, once you got past your fear?

Make a choice! Hesistation will get you pushed into a lot of things you won't like.


When I was little, like age four, I had no fear at all. I would get up on the high dive, hold my nose, fall forever, and splash down. The water was in my eyes, I couldn't see. I was afraid to swim for the side, but I knew which was forward, so I'd swim to the end of the pool, then run back and do it again: over and over. It was only later that I learned to be afraid of jumping in.

Isn't that often true? Our indecisiveness is learned. However, sometimes we just have to make a choice and live with the consequences, and occasionally, for our own good, we have to make a wild, impulsive choice with far-reaching consequences: a literal leap of faith that changes everything.

It helps me to remember Alexander the Great and the Gordian Knot. Sometimes the simplest approach is the best.


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post Nov 6 2008, 04:43 AM
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Well put rex,

And I completely agree with you when you say our indecisiveness is most definatley learned. Confident decision making comes with the knowledge that, one can make a decision without fear being a factor (lol fear factor is a great show to see people having trouble making choices). So I would say just the opposite for someone who is indecisive. They fear to choose, so they hesitate. Hesitation becomes the the choice, because it is the safety net; the crutch that supports during fearful choice making. People must hesitate from time to time, because to choose with haste, all the time, is not wise.

But also waiting to long to choose is also not wise. Ever wait too long to tell a girl that you like her? It ends with her liking the guy that didn't hesitate, and you being sad, both of which, suck.

We learn to hesitate, because we all have a safety net that we come to expect to be there. Hesitation, if anything, is a grey area, but only for just a moment in time. And humans are certainly glad that its there. Most animals, don't have this luxury, because when they hesitate, they don't get pushed into a pool, or loose the would-be affection of a young love, but pay with their life.

And for the record, the choices that people fail to make quickley, and that really irritate me, are :

1. Ordering food on a menu: some people just take forever to decide. If you are one of those people, and cannot help it, I have some advice. Just pick an item on the menu that you will order, that you know you will eat. Notice I said eat, not enjoy, not dislike, but eat. This way you can take your time to browse the menu all you like for that perfect dish, but if push comes to shove, you can fall back on the item you know, you will at least, eat. Don't hold everyone else up because you can't make up your mind... it's rude, and its shows all your dinner compainions you do not value their time.

2. People that pump their gas, then go inside with their car still at the pump, to decide what they want. Self expanatory. Just don't do it. It makes you look silly, and wastes the time of others.

3. People that cannot decide which movie they want to rent. Why is it that whenever my cousin comes into the movie rental place, he always takes a seemly excessive amount of time to decide to rent a movie? I have to tell him to "hurry up, we need to go", all the time. It pains me to think that he must spend half an hour to pick out a movie, half hour of driving, then spend another 2 hours to watch it. Argh, sometimes I don't get it.

4. Excessively hitting the snooze button (like it matters) when you know you still have get up. Why not just get it over with and roll out of bed? Snooze buttons are the stupidest thing an alarm clock can have, becasue it conditions people to hesitate while in a semi-subconsious state. And you know full well, when you finally do rise, those few extra minutes of "snoozing" don't count. Best thing you can do: get up as soon as the alarm goes off. If you still feel tired, try a cold, cold shower. If you would prefer to just crawl back into bed, and sleep the day away, then just do it. Call in sick. At least your time is used in making a choice to do something, over time spent making a handful of hesitations, then having to choose anyway.

5. People who decide to ask you a question, then decide to answer it aloud, before you can respond. If you are guilty of this don't worry; everyone gets a freebie. But please, if you do it all the time, just stop. You look crazy when you address yourself in this fashion, and you waste the time of someone who was actually intent on listening to you, and the world doesn't have enough people to listen as it is, so don't waste the time of the ones that do.

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Hello, I can understand where you are coming from. This questioning lark can all get too much sometimes, I too have overloaded my brain with information and analysis. Its not good for your health thats for sure.

At the end of the day you must think of yourself first. All this questioning if not controlled correctly can be likened to being in a maze - unless you can see over the top - the more difficult your exit will be and the more dead ends you will reach.

My advice is live your life fully- for you and your family as no-one knows what tomorrow has in store for you. What will be will be.. que sera sera rolleyessmileyanim.gif


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What will be will be.. que sera sera rolleyessmileyanim.gif

Yup... ultimately... that pretty well sums it all up... one never really knows what is ahead...

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post Nov 11 2008, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE (Manarra @ Nov 6 2008, 11:33 AM) *
Hello, I can understand where you are coming from. This questioning lark can all get too much sometimes, I too have overloaded my brain with information and analysis. Its not good for your health thats for sure.

At the end of the day you must think of yourself first. All this questioning if not controlled correctly can be likened to being in a maze - unless you can see over the top - the more difficult your exit will be and the more dead ends you will reach.

My advice is live your life fully- for you and your family as no-one knows what tomorrow has in store for you. What will be will be.. que sera sera rolleyessmileyanim.gif


Amen buddy...it took me a great journey and many headaches to figure out the above. Great advice for anyone who has theire head in the murkey waters of uber mystery.

It's best being a ninja of the mind rather than trying to be a strong brute of the mind and looking for answers.

peace,
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