I was reading posts about cropcircles and somone said "Well do we know if its fake or not??" So i started thinking how DO you know if its real or not And how do you make one? I also started thinking that if no one knows how to make one then Aliens or UFOS MUST be the culprit behind cropcircles. :alien:
Can somebody please answer my question and tell me if they agree with me.

I have no idea how genuine crop circles are created. How do we figure out which ones are real and which ones are bored college students on a friday night? Genuine crop circles have unique characteristics that man-made ones don't.

1. Physical changes of plants and soil - not only does the physical appearance of seem to change (it looks dehydrated), but there is change at the molecular level. Research has been conducted over a ten year period with samples and thorough laboratory testing carried out by the biophysicist Dr. Levengood, Nancy Talbott, and John Burks -- the BLT Research Team, and a small army of volunteers worldwide. Their findings include enlarged cell walls, expulsion cavities in the nodes of the plant stalks, significantly extended node lengths, and changes to the soil composition (ie. vastly higher level of magnetite concentration) from samples taken within the crop formations in contrast to the control samples taken from outside the circles.
Reported increase in crop yield - Some farmers and researchers have independently reported greater yield in the years following the appearance of formations in their fields. In 1997, Tim Carson who farms East Field (where the "DNA" formation appeared in 1996) reported to researchers that his yield was up 30-40%. The increased yield that usually only comes with annual rehybridization (done in labs) remains the same level even in up to 5th generation crops coming from crop circles, according to researcher Steve Purkaple.

2. Swirl in multiple directions - many formations have complex woven patterns of the swirled crops. Not only do the plants in the formation swirl clockwise or counter-clockwise, but sometimes certain sections will swirl one direction and layers on top are going another direction. They sometimes even have multiple layers swirled in different directions.

3. Woven stalks - Other times the stalks are actually woven like a piece of loose cloth on the floor of the formation. This has been observed by various researchers in the UK.

4. Selective swirling - Even though the edges are clearly defined, sometimes stalks from the outside edge are pulled into the formation. This doesn't seem to be too unusual, but actually certain stalks from the middle of a grouping of plants gets pulled in. The ones closest to the formation do not. And this occurs around the entire edge of the crop circle. Very meticulous!

5. Equipment malfunctions - There have been numerous reports of electronic equipment failing in crop circles and compasses spinning out of control in & over the crop circles (when flying over in aircraft). This range of equipment includes watches, mobile phones, batteries, cameras... fortunately no pacemakers yet! No explanations for these occurences, other than the indication of a strong EM field distortions.

6. Unusual bending of plant stalks - It's a widely publicized fact that plants within a formation actually bend at the naturally occuring nodes 90 degrees. This can also happen in hoaxed formations where the plant is pressed to the ground and "bends" to reach towards the light. This process known as phototropism is more pronounced in younger stalks, often reaching up towards the light in 1-2 days. However, what isn't well-known is that there is more than one possible place for bent nodes. Some formations have had stalks all bent from the same node (there are up to a half dozen nodes on one plant). Some formations show bending at the knuckle closest to the ground, yet in a neighboring section they all bend two knuckles up and so on. In the line of ~24 circles in Windmill Hill in 2000, virtually all the stalks were bent 1/4" beneath the nodes, though at completely different heights (1" to 6" range) from the ground. This means that each stalk would have to be bent individually to give that effect.

7. Occur far from any tramlines - many formations and plain circular "grapeshots" often occur in the middle of fields far from any tramlines without any disturbance of the surrounding crop (which is detectable). Good example is the 1996 formation in Basingstoke, Hampshire where a circle with a ring was put inside the middle of an organic oilseed rape field that had no tramlines at all and the crop was 4-5 feet tall!

8. Formations occur inside restricted areas - numerous accounts of crop circles appearing inside military installations that are fenced off from the surrounding area. Most noteably in Wiltshire along the Salisbury Plain. Are Doug and Dave in the Army?

9. Geophysical features - One common denominator of many of the crop formations is that they occur over underground water supplies and land situated above chalk beds, according to researcher Steve Page. Water is a good conductor of electrical current, and could possibly be channeling the electromagnetic currents of the Earth (which is what dowsers attempt to detect). This observation may have something to do with how some crop circles are formed.

10. Physical side effects - Many people mention having some sort of physical reaction (positive or negative) during and after a visit to a crop formation. Side effects range from nausea, headaches, dizziness, tingling sensations, pains amd giddiness... to getting literally knocked off their feet! Sometimes the effects are felt only after leaving the formation, such as sickness or disruption to the mentrual cycle, which could be affected by the surge of energies absorbed from within the formation.
Alignment with natural features of the land - This isn't apparent from the ground, but aerial photographs have shown that often formations are imprinted on the earth in alignment with tram lines or even darkened sections on the earth. This is an impossiblity without been able to see "the big picture" before permanently laying out the design.

Websites to read:
http://www.lovely.clara.net/biophysical.html
http://www.thelosthaven.co.uk/HistoryofCrop.htm
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa021802a.htm
http://www.dcccs.org/ccff.htm
http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword02d.htm
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Eicircle/dcircles/L...eteoricIron.htm
http://www.controversial-science.com/curre...-comparison.htm


Oh, and another way we can spot real crop circles from the others......

Man-made:


"Genuine" crop circle:

One of my all time favorites. Found in Woodborough Hill, England in 2001. The design is based on the Golden Mean spiral, a mathematical ratio referred to as "phi". To build one would require using a square and applying the phi ratio (1:1.618) to generate the various compass points required to grow the spiral. In this formation, this would then have to be repeated 22 times, reversed and over-laid. Fourteen concentric rings are then inscribed to complete the matrix. The crop is then laid in alternate segments. It also has everything mentioned above....biophysical anomalies, chemical anomalies, physical anomalies.

That pic at the bottom is kewl.....but why do you think aliens started with simple circles instead of intricate designs like these???
PS How much did you research?!

I'm not much the expert on crop circle history, but I've intently watched many shows discussing them. The best I can offer this discussion is that most experts worth their salt can tell a fake from the real thing.

What the heck they really are and what their origions are is still up to much speculation. I recall footage of small spheres of light flying around and away where circles were created, and I also remember that trace residues of radiation and mutations to the crops themselves have been found in the cirvcles that were determined to be "not man-made"

Yet, the earth itself can generate all sorts of radiations, but for the life of me, I do not understand how any natural phenomenon could create the intricate designs that some scientists claim are created naturally.

Crop circles are a very weird mystery. I'm sure that aliens have some sort of thing to bend the stalks. People just use boards which kill the plant though so i think its aliens when its a good job.

Making crop circles is no problem. It's just a matter of rotating the crops.

I wonder what the aliens use to bend the stalks, man-made crop circles won't look near as good as alien-made crop circles, the aliens must be trying to communicate with us, and if so what are they trying to tell us?

Well! If aliens do indeed use a gravitic propulsion system, then the gravity of a craft landing (or, hell, maybe they focus it from above to create patterns) would cause the stalks to bend without there being signs of anything physically touching them. They would also bend in a uniform manner, and there may be radioactive residue of some sort.

Something must be coming out of the alien's craft when they make a crop circle, that's why you don't see any signs of anything touching the crops, some geniune crop circles will have a strange substance on the crops after the circle is made.

Genuine crop circles are made by heat. A big burst of heat kinda wilts the crop into the shape then when it cools, it in that shape without damamging the crop itself, just chaniging it's shape. They have also done studies where the seeds will be missing from the crops without outwardly damamging the crop. I thought that was interesting.

People also say that there's an interesting kind of energy present in genuine crop circles that makes some dizzy, some disoriented, some get hi, and others have headaches leave and all sorts of different things.

I think the real question to ask if aliens are creating some of them, which I don't necessarily believe, is; why do they keep picking crop fields to land in?

Just for fun, lets say aliens are responsible for some of them, you would think they should have stopped by now realizing that they were giving themselves away.

Besides, crop circles have been reported here and there for many years, I'm sure many of you have seen the old picture from the 1600's that depicts crop circles being created by demons or the devil. I think this picture alone shows that it is some sort of geological happening with interest being revived in them when airplane use became standard.

I think 99% of crop circles are fake, the others more than likely natural in some way.

I don't see how you can say crop circles are made by natural phenominon like the weather or something. That's like saying pictures of art in museums were made by natural phenominon and the weather.

I have seen a DVD on this and I can tell you This is no natural Phenominom the DVD shows you a UFO just like the one I have seen with my own eyes. That orange ball it was seen near a crop circle.captured on video. The DVD is called (crop circles) I will get more info if you wish. it allso shows you lots of photos and some of the crop circles could not have been fake. one local pilot flying over stone thingy (big rocks sticking out of the ground in england) flew over a field twenty mins later returned over same field to find the most fantastic crop circle I have ever seen even better then the one pictured ,twenty mins to make that I think not,not by us anyway I think after seeing this DVD ithas to do with micro waves the storks have been heated from the inside you need to watch this it will convince you. Am i getting carrid away here this is a subject i like. stuff the grammer

Star maps some of the crop circles look like maps mybe thay are trying to tell us an address.

We still don't know a lot about our planet and the different natural happenings that sometimes occur. The theories above have been 'debunked' by people who think they are done by aliens or spirits by saying that the more complex structures that started appearing in the 90's can't make the above possible.

However, it seems funny to me that crop circles have been around or at least known by humans for hundreds of years with more complicated ones only showing up recently. That raises the flag of human intervention for many of the modern ones in my mind.

Before the modern era they were never reported to be of complex design as far as I know. Take it for what you want, but sometimes the scientific explanation can be just as fascinating as the fanciful one.

I think genuine crop circles are made by aliens, sure some people will do hoaxes, but that's not what is interesting to me, I want the real deal, and ozzie do you have any more info on the dvd you saw?

I also have seen that DVD...I hired it from the video shop...i really liked the other parts on the DVD were the army helicopters were flying around over the little white lights flying around the crops....also the guy talking about his expirience with the supposibly C.I.A fella...

Worth every cent i spent on it for the night...