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    It&#39;s amazingly unscientific to speculate something like that... There&#39;s no evidence that it&#39;ll happen.
    Ugh - it gives me a headache even thinking about it, especially since traversable wormholes require exotic matter according to our theories. That&#39;s where this idea dies.


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    "May" is a pretty big word for being just three letters long.

    Yeah, the collider MAY open a portal ... or it may not. It may open up new science. Or it may not. I may end the world or begin a new one or do nothing at all. Who can say?

    I hate to say it my friend, but it won&#39;t make much difference to me either way.
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    The LHC will do nothing but expand our physics understanding.

    It is going to achieve a very high energy density.

    However, the total energy in any of its collider events is very small.

    Not enough total energy to do anything of significance.

    A comparitivly small amount of energy compressed by the collision to a high density.

    It would take a lot more energy than the collider is capable of producing to do anything of significant scale.

    It is a single subatomic collider event.
    All it is capable of doing is expanding our science.

    There were some who feared that the first atomic bomb explosion would start a chain reaction that would destroy the earth.
    That was a lot more energy than a single subatomic collider event.
    And we are still here.
    Whatever works, use it.

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    If it stands or falls on the credibility of the author, maybe it isn't such a good idea.

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    Im a little pushed for time ATM but havent they observed &#39;ghost&#39; like images (not people ghost as the term implies but particle ghost) in either this or another oneof these contrapitions?
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    I may ( hee- hee ) be lost here but, I thought this thing was suppose to give data on the big bang theory. Is that right?
    Whoever said anything was possible, obviouly never tried slamming a revolving door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirin-rex
    I hate to say it my friend, but it won&#39;t make much difference to me either way.
    kirin....unless it changes my daily life.....or ends it....what does it really matter.

    IMO....its simply fear of the unknown.....no different that the fear of breaking the sound barrier or setting off atomic weapons underwater. Prior to Operations Crossroads in July 1946 people feared that underwater atomic explosions would blow a hole in the ocean and drain all the seas. Who knows...maybe some thought the world was really hollow....
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    There are particle collisions in our own atmosphere that are many times more energetic that the highest one the LHC will ever be able to produce. And we are still here. Maybe something has already come through, though. Like Britney Spears.

    The good thing about LHC is that we know exactly where these collisions will occur and measure them, which is impossible to do with the ones in the atmosphere with the same precision.

    About ghosts - particle accelerators are huge magnets. If anyone is interested in "synthetic ghosts" reproduced by magnetic fields and neuroscience, you can read this rather dry (but interesting) article:
    Persinger, M.A., Tiller, S.G., & Koren, S.A. Experimental simulation of a haunt experience and paroxysmal electroencephalographic activity by transcerebral complex magnetic fields: Induction of a synthetic ghost? Perceptual and Motor Skills, 2000, 90, 659-674.

    This is the text:
    http://neuro.psychiatryonline.org/cg.../full/13/4/515

    I find it extremely interesting, as it does explain ghosts where I could not find an explanation that was enough for my atheist mindset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricket
    I may ( hee- hee ) be lost here but, I thought this thing was suppose to give data on the big bang theory. Is that right?
    It&#39;s looking for quite a few things, but it&#39;s main objective is to recreate conditions as close as possible to the big bang. The reason for this is so we can find something called the Higgs Boson (A.K.A., The God Particle). It&#39;s a particle which, if it exists, is responsible for giving every other particle it&#39;s mass.
    No mass means no gravity, and the universe would be far different from any imaginable state.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno
    It&#39;s looking for quite a few things, but it&#39;s main objective is to recreate conditions as close as possible to the big bang. The reason for this is so we can find something called the Higgs Boson (A.K.A., The God Particle). It&#39;s a particle which, if it exists, is responsible for giving every other particle it&#39;s mass.
    No mass means no gravity, and the universe would be far different from any imaginable state.
    Yes, we will be able to see what happened closer after the Big Bang. We know what went on a few microseconds after, but we need to get closer because we have very little idea what went on at the time, and right after the time. Also as you said we are hoping it will prove the existence of the Higgs Boson, which would solve a lot of the unsolved problems we have in theoretical and particle physics.

    Being able to observe the nature of singularities and exotic matter is another thing.
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