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    Default Why we're all wrong a lot more often than we could ever imagine.

    5 Logical Fallacies That Make You Wrong More Than You Think | Cracked.com

    Many of you have probably heard of most of these. The first one is my favorite, though:


    #5. We're Not Programmed to Seek "Truth," We're Programmed to "Win"


    Think about the last time you ran into a coworker or family member spouting some easily disproven conspiracy theory -- somebody who still thinks Obama's birth certificate is a fake or that Dick Cheney arranged 9/11 to cover up his theft of $2.3 trillion from the government. When they were shown proof that their conspiracy theory was wrong, did they back down? Did they get this look of realization on their face and say, "Wow ... if this is untrue, then maybe the other 'facts' upon which I've based my fringe beliefs also aren't true. Thank you, kind stranger, for helping me rethink my entire political philosophy!"

    That has literally never happened in the history of human conversation. Whether it's a politician whose point has been refuted or a conspiracy theorist who has been definitively proven insane, they will immediately shift to the next talking point or conspiracy theory that backs up their side, not even skipping a beat. They keep fighting to defend their position even after it is factually shown to be untrue. But what's really weird is that process -- of sticking to your guns even after you've been proven definitively wrong -- is apparently the entire reason humans invented arguing.
    The Science:

    It's called the argumentative theory of reasoning, and it says that humans didn't learn to ask questions and offer answers in order to find universal truths. We did it as a way to gain authority over others. That's right -- they think that reason itself evolved to help us bully people into getting what we want. Here's how a proponent puts it:

    "'Reasoning doesn't have this function of helping us to get better beliefs and make better decisions,' said Hugo Mercier, who is a co-author of the journal article, with Dan Sperber. 'It was a purely social phenomenon. It evolved to help us convince others and to be careful when others try to convince us.' Truth and accuracy were beside the point."
    And as evidence, the researchers point out that after thousands of years of humans sitting around campfires and arguing about issues, these glaring flaws in our logic still exist. Why hasn't evolution weeded them out? The answer, they say, is that these cognitive flaws are adaptations to a system that's working perfectly fine, thank you. Our evolutionary compulsion is to triumph, even if it means being totally, illogically, proudly wrong.




    So During Your Next Argument, Remember ...

    You do this, too. If you're a human being, you're from a long line of people who got to the winner's circle again and again by ignoring facts in favor of advancing your side. So, the next time you find yourself desperately Googling for some factual example that proves your argument is right, and failing to find even one, stop. See if you can put the brakes on and actually say, out loud, "Wait a second. If the things I'm saying in order to bolster my argument are consistently wrong, then maybe my argument is also wrong."




    ZOMG, SOROS!!!!

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    interesting.....obviously this changes none of my views....HAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellyb View Post
    #5. We're Not Programmed to Seek "Truth," We're Programmed to "Win"
    Win here, win there, win, win everywhere.

    Crap, I can't get that song out of my head now.

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    I can definately see this in many people and family members. And no doubt we are all this way to a degree.
    In search of the real truth.

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    i will be the first to admit that i believe my opinions are the correct ones and i dont care what evidence one has to the contrary.....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyD View Post
    i will be the first to admit that i believe my opinions are the correct ones and i dont care what evidence one has to the contrary.....lol
    Im a bit like that,and i know im right.lol
    I came, i saw, i left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Win here, win there, win, win everywhere.

    Crap, I can't get that song out of my head now.
    We're gonna win everything,
    Right every single wrong-ong-ong...
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    ZOMG, SOROS!!!!

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    I've got a list.
    Help me sort this.
    From the epic win to the desperately winless!
    ZOMG, SOROS!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyD View Post
    interesting.....obviously this changes none of my views....HAHAHAHA
    Nor mine.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by augustus View Post
    Nor mine.........
    ZOMG, SOROS!!!!


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