but onthe way back home listning to mp3 goa psy trance all they talk in those song LSD opens your mind and perseption of reality...
and so on.

does it do that???? if some one has taken lsd


i have never done drug s .

This thread is to be devoted to the posting of reports, data & or link to such. Discussions about such should be taken up in the main forum.



More reports here:http://www.mnmufon.org/mutil.htm

Don't reply enough to topics.
Are afraid of what people think of your identity.
Don't know who you are.
Will hopefully reply to this topic.

Not very encouraging reading about the UK's 'Digital Economy Bill' and radical copyright proposal.



http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/20/brita...ew-interne.html





http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/11/19/be...rnet-in-the-uk/


Link:

Leaked UK government plan to create "Pirate Finder General" with power to appoint militias, create laws.

Cheers.

As said, I'am new, and from Sac Cali, 34, never been abducted, never really seen anything, but I'am very interested, and curious.
Closest thing I have ever had is multiple thru out my life OBE, thats it
I don't wear alien costumes go to alien seminars, if you seen me, you probably would ask, "Why the hell would he sign up here?"

Okay promise this is the last of my silly posts.

What if you had fore-knowledge and opportunity to stop someone like Hitler (for example) before he rose to power and embarked on his death march but the only way you could do so was to kill him. Would you do it even if it meant that you would most likey be tried, convicted and sentenced for doing so?

Im not sure if these silly series of posts are in the right spot or not but Im sure you mod's will correct it if you find a more approiate home for them.

If you could be anything at all, other then human, what would you be? Would you be a tree? A mountain, a goldfish or a bird? (Please dont limit yourself) And why would you be what you have choosen?

Personally I think I would like to be a great white. I seldom sleep, I love seafood, am a good swimmer and lets face it, theres not to many things that are gonna F#$k with a great white now is there

Second question:

If you could have any super power (only one) what would you choose and why?

I would probably pick invisibility because that way I could get up to some playful mischief, sit in of secret meetings to get the heads up on financial deals and generally just have a ball.

Okay in line with my orginal post in the off topic pages of science and tech here is a pop quiz for you to consider. Please dont take this as religion or faith bashing as that is not my intention. I decided to break it into two questions and this is taking it for granted that you are alive, and remain alive during and after. And yes the last option is a cop out on my part to spare my poor befuddled brain from straining itself lol.

If you where ever to meet God (or an Angel) what would you do?

A) Fall to your knees and pray for forgivness?
Ask him/her what the meaning of life is?
C) Ask him/her why he/she allowed so much suffering to take place in the world?
D) Cower in fear?
E) Ask him/her why he/she didnt see what satan was up too?
F) Go to a doctor as you think your having hallicutations?
G) Other (please specify)

If such a meeting took place would you?

A) Ask for a personal favour? If so what would it be? (As this is personal the second part is optional)
Ask him/her why they where talking to you in the first place?
C) If they had a task for you to complete would you do so even if it meant you may die?
D) Ask if he/she can solve our (humanities) problems?
E) Other (please specify)

As I said this is not meant to rile anyones feathers as I am not having a go at anyone regardless of their beliefs / non-beliefs. It is merely intended as an exercise to get us thinking of how we may react to an unexpected contact with a superior being.

Okay this is just a bit of spectulation I thought I would throw out here as its been a bit quiet of late.

I will post another couple of these types of questions in some other threads also so if the mod's want to merge them into one thats fine by me as they will all be phyisphical (as in Plato etc) type questions with no real answer (I think).

Seeing as how this is a science sub forum here is my first question which I first heard from a car. (Pick the car and you win....................................nothing lol)

What would happen if an irresistible force met an immovable object?

I was just having a peek at the Mystry ruins thread and I began thinking of things that people have lost forever. Some of these things have just succumb to time and the elements and that is to be expected of any and all structures be they man made or natural. What things, be they buildings, momuments, art, literature, music whatever can you think of that is now gone forever or is about to disappear forever either man made and destroyed or weathered by time to the extent that it will soon become lost to us and future generations.

I think the greatest travesty I have witnessed (via the wonderful world of television) was the destruction of the gaint stone buddha's by the taliban. Im not a buddist but I was deeply sadened to see this act of which I can only describe as wantton vandilism. I understand that most religions preach that all others are infidels and or hertic in nature and that their 'false idols' should be destroyed but cant people appreciate the beauty of this structures / monuments for the art they are regardless of whom (or what) they depict?

Well thats my pick for lost treasures, naturally as I think of them I will add to the list but please feel free to contribute. It doesnt have to be man made or even man destroyed either. There are some beautiful and amazing natural things in this world which are slipping (or have already slipped) away.

I don't buy it.
Who knows though...

http://theparafactor.blogspot.com/2009/11/...-olfactory.html

I've been thinking about something recently, very seriously in fact. I'm not joking here. If I were being ironic, I would have made this a post on my blog. Instead, I'm putting this here. It's not a question, just an idea.

I don't know a lot about science. What I know wouldn't fill a doll's teacup compared the ocean of knowledge out there, but I know a bit, so here it goes.

The nature of the universe and living things ...





The universe is essentially made of two kinds of energies: energies that attract and energies that repel. Sub-quantum positive and negative charges attract and repel and coalesce into quantum particles. These quantum particles variously stick to each other or push each other away, forming themselves into cohesive units we call protons, electrons and neutrons. The attraction and repelling of protons, neutrons and electrons create the various atomic structures that we know. As the numbers of these subatomic particles vary, so do the densities and masses of the atomic structures they can form, as do the properties of the atoms themselves. These in turn have a larger effect on how these atomic structures behave with one another.

For example, certain atomic structures tend to clump, or attract, while others push each other away. Some lose electrons more easily than others. Some are more easily fissile than others. Some have electrons that move orbit or change speed.

Now as the atoms attract or repel, their properties change. For example, under the right conditions, oxygen and hydrogen will bond together into 3-atom groups of H2O. These units of H2O, these molecules, interact with their environment VERY differently than hydrogen or oxygen by themselves. For example, it can assume liquid form at a much higher temperature, and achieve solid at a vastly higher temp than either Oxygen or Hydrogen. H2O is, in fact, one of the most unique molecules we know of, in regards to how it behaves at different temperatures (for example, in that it's solid form is crystalline).

Now, add sulfur to the H2O, and its reactions with other atomic structures takes on even MORE variety! So, as we can see, this aspect of attraction and repelling allows these positive and negatively charged units a greater capacity of reactions with other units. As molecules become more complex, so does their ability to perform reactions with other matter.

Now, certain molecules, under the right conditions, become capable of performing stable and continuing reactions. Essentially, that's what life is: it is a series of chemical reactions whereby materials are processed by the living organism. Living things process light into energy (such as how we use sunlight in the synthesis of vitamin D, or plants use photosynthesis in processing nitrogen for nutrition).

Again, many of my ideas are flawed due to not having a strong background in science, but bear with me on the idea: as orders of complexity increase, so does the ability of the matter/organism to sustain reactions with the environment.

Now, about a billion years ago, we had single-celled organisms: little engines that could sustain chemical reactions. Now there was a cell that had a very strong cell wall and could prevent other cells from invading it and using it for nutrition. However, its ability to sustain reactions was weak: it could only provide enough power to maintain a single cell. Then, it met another cell: mitochondria. Mitochondria had no cell wall. It was defenseless, open to the environment and easily destroyed by other cells. However, it was an energy powerhouse capable of reactions that would produce far, far more energy than it needed. The mitochondria formed a symbiotic relationship with the other cell. The large cell provided protection, giving the mitochondria the cell wall it lacked. The mitochondria in turn gave all its excess energy to the larger cell, enabling it to perform more complex reactions and, most importantly, form bonds with others cells.

Through mitochondria, these clumps of cells were able to provide better protection to one another. These were able to share nutrition and resources. They were capable of better and more complex reactions. They had an advantage, by vast orders of magnitude, over single-celled organisms. Now, as multicellular organisms increased in size and complexity, so too did their ability to protect themselves and perform more complex reactions, turning larger and larger matter into energy for itself.

Now, we could ask: if bigger is better, why did the dinosaurs die out? Why aren't Earth's animals 900 feet tall? The answer is: there is a tipping point. There is a point at which access to resources limits size. Bigger is only better so long as the individual organism can get access to food resources and energy. Competition for available energy limits the size and complexity of the organism.

Now, we know that this clumping together of matter, really an extension of the forces of attraction and repelling, gives advantages. So my though is this: are we human beings simply an extension of the primordial soup? Is our intelligence, are our souls, only a biproduct of a process of subquantum attracting and repelling that gave advantages to matter, based on its ability to carry out reactions?

We human beings process our environment. We take the air, a combination of hydrogen, nitrogen, argon, oxygen and carbon, and break it down, processing oxygen in our bodies, releasing carbon, and absorbing nitrogen. We take plant and animal matter, break it down for energy and excrete the waste (a simpler, inert form that can no longer perform sustained reactions, but only reacts with the environment insofar as it breaks down and decays and provides food for simpler organisms).

We process our environment to make houses, roads, even nuclear weapons. We gouge the very Earth for these, not unlike termites digging out a tree.

Two billion years ago, heavy metals exposed to weather performed complex and sustained nuclear reactions for millions of years.

Although matter has clumped together not unlike how the planets coalesced out of the dust of the big bang, has it ALL been simply a matter of matter attracting or repelling other matter in order to carry out more complex reactions and operations?

It makes me wonder. Just something I'm thinking about.

Again, sorry if the science is completely wrong. I love science, but know very little.

yesterday i got into a little argument with my mom, i went into my room full of energy, listening to some decent metal cleaning up my room while dancing,...then i sat down trying to calm down changing the music from metal to some house/minimal sounds which did not work out perfectly cause for the first time in my life i thought if there would be some lethal pills laying on my desk i would take them instantly to end my life. i just did not feel like belonging to all of this.
my life in germany is actually pretty good, school is going well, i live in decent financial and social settings and therefore have never really thought about suicide i just think my emotions led me stop thinking rational at that moment.

however, that night was going to be a party at a friends house. eventhough i could have easily been taking the bus i decided to walk which takes about 50 minutes, thinking the walk could calm me down.
at the party i was drinking a couple of beers, then we were making some *special* brownies ,.. actually im not used to products that consist of Tetrahydrocannabinol though the forces of the group made me eat a piece. half an our later my folks were all chilling, i felt pretty uncomfortable in that situation cause id rather go out for a walk looking at stuff,...so after the first people started to fall asleep i took of. i decided to walk home since that walk d be long enough to listening to some music and meditate. i felt really good. my spine was very warm, i could feel the warm energy supporting my back from the bottom to the shoulders it pushed me, i flowed over the sidewalk being overwhelmed by all the infrastructure (houses, cars espacially cars)..

the combination of my prior emotional status and the brownies made me feel like i have never felt before. i felt very mighty but scared (respecting and honoring this world for the way it is) i don´t know god, but at that moment i loved him alot and felt honored to be living in this world. PRIDE is probably the best way to describe it. the pride of a warrior.
as i turned into the road, i surpassed street lights. which is not unusual so far. i was concerned of how they acted as a passed them. they were "flickering" extremely. than one turned off just as i walked under it,..this happened 3-4 times throughout the walk,..light turning off..i did not feel scared anymore, i could easily get used to living like that. i sort of interacted with my environment. i felt charged and kept walking. i moved my hands in weird und uncommon ways. i was flowing,..my awareness of the world was different. now that im writing this i feel that i have been sober for the first time in my life yesterday, right now being actually sober i feel that my mind is being influenced right now. right now i need to think what im supposed to (to a degree) manipulatable...
i recognized that another street light simply turned off as i passed it,. there i knew this was real but i could handle it. i could easily have been freaking out, but i tried to make the best out of the situation,..being in such a shift of realitiy one can easily be overwhelmed by the impressions emotions and visions,..the strucure of thought processing was different, i felt like living in a very metaphysical world were everything is made of transfering energies, all we see is transferred energies in a sort of interpretaional way. you eat an apple that gives energy to you, though what if there is a second you, a more mathematical one that instead of eating the apple "inhales" particles,..well no this is very complicated to explain right now.
i lost my awarness of time so i don´t really now what time it was but i recognized the uncommonly high traffic,..just as another traffic light started to flicker i witnessed a strange vehicle passing by...it looked like an american van big ford van or something similar with sirenes going on on top. the van was black an the windows were black to. it was fast it headed to the place the first light went off. i could have been anything though it was strange that this happened at that time..i have never seen a car like that that i germany. it looked like a secret agency vehicle, i have never seen a german agency neither ambulance nor police using that type of car. i started walking faster i did not feel secure anymore. now i started to pay more attention to the cars and people passing by. then the vehicle turned by a second time,..i started walking faster almost jogging. a lot of big cars like big black 5er BMWs were driving around. i was tripping and freaked out, something was not right. all the time i was trying to get some rational reasons for everything that happened, but it did not make any sense,..
i thought i would die. did i see to much? did i experience stuff im not supposed to? i thought how easily i could have been shot and the police could make up stories a little boy shot himself blabla, just pow and im dead just like that very easily..i rememberd how i sat in my room thinking of the pills on my desk and i felt sorry and was ashamed of even haven thought about something like that..i turned into a road i saw a beautiful old house,..nice lights were leading to the door it was an epic picture,..it was beautiful,..as if god showed me how beautiful it is and how stupid and childish ive been after the fight with my mother...i sweared that i never even think about suicide anymore and love life the way i allways did..weird coherency i suppose..i felt that god was my father, brother, friend and myself in one,..the feeling in my spine came to its peek,..as if he put his hand on my shoulders and said go on boy! very amazing..

i was looking to the sky trying to measure how far im still of home, there i saw plane i thought with bright light. then i remembered the orange lights ive seen probably a year ago. i told myself please don´t be an ufo please please..that would have been to much for 20 years of age..i focused on it it burned,..it was probably 1km away, from my location..it glowed and jumped twice to the left. the same jumping style i have seen a year ago,..it disappeared behind trees and i forgot about it until this morning..comapring to what i have gone through, the ufo rather appeared unimportant at that moment, i just wantetd to go home,..at home i realized that my parent were gone for a 2 day trip, i spend 30 seconds in the house,..the walls had eyes i left my house walking another 30 minutes to get to an other friend of mine,..i just could not be alone,..FEAR!!
i don´t remember the way to my friends house. i instantly felt asleep. this morning i took of my shoes and my white socks were full of blood,...i walked so much, my feet started bleeding

please give me some feedback,.don´t let me deal with it by myself,..im not going to tell my parents theyd probaby send me to the hospital..my friends are going to be sceptic to, there might be 2-3 that understand. thanks alot for reading ...
the thing that impressed me the most were the lights that seemed to interact with me, has someone heard of anything similar,..

Very interesting (radar corellated) RAF UFO report which was so sensitive 'an extra three years was added to its 25 year release date'.



Eyewitness Statement:







Incident:







Radar Confirmation






Links:

British Ministry of Defense Document request -RAF Boulmer (pdf)
http://www.ufo-blog.com/ufo-blog/labels/Mo...FO%20files.html
http://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/new...ushed.930633.jp
http://www.uk-ufo.org/condign/secfilunid1.htm

After some youtubing, I thought I'd post some very interesting videos I came across for anyone who shows interest.




I like to wonder what their objective is when aliens create these.