Just wondering if many of us have viewed some genuine ufo footage and dismissed it as photoshop, cgi, hoax , or something else maybe we've reached that stage now were we wouldnt know wether something was real or not you know that footage sorry i havent a link of the russian soldiers surronding a crashed saucer in the woods a lot of people thought it looked genuine was it ? or was it de-bunked ? sorry im losing my way a bit but my point is have we missed something ?

this is the problem,you can't see the wood fro the trees.if you look on you tube under-russian ufo files...i think you can get some docu info on there.

As Macdaddy has said sometimes you can't see the wood from the tree's, and it's allways a possibility in the computer age that something may be mistaken for CGI/Hoax etc......

That is the present problem and I am sure it has happened more than once.
In this age, can you be sure of what you are looking at when it comes to pictures and videos?....I don't think so.

This is exactly why i get all grouchy when I see hoaxes or hoaxers. Like the ones that make up stories and claim they are true. Or people taking photos of a jacket on a chair and claim it's a ghost etc. It hides the real evidence and makes the rest of us look bad.

I don't think it makes us look bad, but it does no justice to the subject matter, besides making the truth much harder to find.

Part of the problem is lack of agreeable middle ground. many believers will believe almost anything, no matter how whacky, and the skeptics will believe nothing that hasn't been through a test tube. So it always degrades to the yes it is no it isn't argument. What is needed is some middle ground that both sides of the fence could accept as being in the just maybe category. I guess a scientific process of elimination that ends in a grey area..I dont know, I am rambling again

i actually don't think so

You mean we havent missed anything M.D. ?

we may well has missed genuine footage,it may be so good nobody believes it,so bad its hard to make out.or the government has it stored away .they don't want us to know,the governments do not want there authority undermined.is everything we see vetted?

I agree (with your post).

yep thats why i try to say away from all them pic's and videos you could never know and even if its real who knows what it is, experimental aircraft / cgi / gasball of crap / shooting star / helium balloon with flashing l.e.d's / or any other hoax type of trickery, even light reflecting off uranus lol

I also hate it when hoaxsters post things. Take that flying craft last year photographed in California in the spring with the funny shape. ( A ring with all kinds of prongs on it. ) Each time I saw a new picture, it changed into something else. No two pictures are quite the same. The hoaxster couldn't leave well enough alone. He had to make it better and more interesting than the last time. I saw the picture and immediately saw it as strange. I kept going back to it until I spotted the hinge in the front of the ship. ( It has no real purpose on a ship like that. It was an artifact from the parts that he made it out of. ) All he did was to take our attention away from others who might have had a true experience. So we might miss some real experiences. It is a shame. But that's what you get when you drink out of a fire hose ( surfing the internet. ) All the crap as well as all the good stuff. Your brain has to filter everything and you wind up accepting less and less until you are a skeptic yourself. Debunking everything that comes along.

Well-said, Freestone. I sometimes feel I'm there already.

Like I personally am quite surprised that NO ONE on this seemingly quite experienced forum made ANY remarks on the pictures I posted.

Really...

Which pictures were those, Skylurker? I'll look at them,

Well, here they are:

First: Hercules from New Zealand Airforce with soccerball sized orbs (2 types: shiny and translucent)
Second: Blue sky with both types
Third: artist impression of what I saw through bino's. If it is alive, I'm quite sure it posed for me.

Okay, picture number one: the white specs could be just about anything.

Okay, picture number two: ditto

Picture number three: very cool, but I have no idea what I'm looking at.

It's always scary how people take nonsense for real and disregard the truth. Isn't that what this thread is about? Scary.

So, that's 100% proof you don't know anything. You would have recognized them if you knew. No doubt.

But, thank you for your comments. They are enlightening.



This post has been edited by skylurker: Jul 1 2008, 07:18 PM

Come, now. No need to be hostile. You say he would have recognised them if he knew. Knew what? What the speck was? How would he know? How would anyone know? The fact is - it is a spek. And that is what it is going to stay, unless better photos are provided.

But anyway, in your opinion (or knowledge?), what are they, skylurker?