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post May 3 2008, 06:03 AM
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after viewing hundreds,maybe more of videos,photo's of ufo related material, one occuring theme seems to be present.most of the footage is either bad quality,shot from a distance,ghost pics and videos are similar.the most detaled and quality pics more often or not are hoaxed. i find it harder to believe,when the lack of physical,or darn good pics are either non-existent or,as some would believe hidden away.My point is if someone is filming summin that is that important and amazing you would assume they'd try to get a good shot.i tend to think the spin on ufo's is a government ploy to take attention away from our highly developed flying craft.the germans were building saucers in the 40's,the americans developed the german tehnology after the war.so maybe a case of G.i's rather than E.T's.what do you think?
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post May 4 2008, 02:38 AM
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hello...? Is anybody out there...?yoo hoo..? can you hear me?
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post May 4 2008, 11:05 AM
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Misty windows? Whats that about

But no i dont go along with that about them being ours... i think the reason we only get
grainy and out of focus images and video is cause those aliens are smart.. they only show
what they want you to see.. humans aint that smart enough to do that...


I wish people would stop saying they are ours.. im not having it.. and its
only what they "not the aliens" want you to think..
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post May 4 2008, 02:30 PM
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Keep in mind too that many of the reasons may be a protective energy field that causes a distorted and blurred image. Now you may say that this is a convenient excuse, but think about it logically. Would you fly around the skies of an alien world as hostile as ours without protection?
Also, look at the older ones, many of them hold more credit due to the fact they were taken before CGI and digital photography.
Some of the best ones are quite good and still held as genuine.


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post May 5 2008, 11:52 AM
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Well the main and obvious problem is that most cameras and camcorders people have are just not
cut out to capture these types of shots.. for long distance shots ya really need a top end piece
of kit.. even my sony cam isnt that great. and for some strange reason the more expensive camcorders
only go up to 10x zoom where a cheap one can have up to 40x .. that dont make sense
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post May 6 2008, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE (BuzZz777 @ May 4 2008, 05:55 PM) *
Misty windows? Whats that about

But no i dont go along with that about them being ours... i think the reason we only get
grainy and out of focus images and video is cause those aliens are smart.. they only show
what they want you to see.. humans aint that smart enough to do that...


I wish people would stop saying they are ours.. im not having it.. and its
only what they "not the aliens" want you to think..

if the aliens were that smart,they would be invisible,especially if they didn't want to be noticed.secondly buzzz the government only show you what they want you to see, through mainstream media and news.often to get the real story you have to be there.We are that smart.what perfect cover....get the public looking to the stars to see where these strange craft are coming from,when you should be looking closer to home.i believe the government promote the ufo myth to draw attention away from themselves. for example,take roswell..i think this happened, human built saucer experimental craft malfunctions,crashes in desert..authorites do not want public (or the russians)knowing we are flying them.invent multiple cover stories(misinformation).bodies found burnt remains of test pilots,i have seen two badly burnt bodies(not nice)look alien like.there is also a fair bit of cash to be made from this subject,so i am really not convinced.if we were to be visited,they won't come in peace,they will be coming to find resources and to populate other worlds,conquer if you like.watch the skies cos when they come,everyone will know and then it will be too late.independance day without jeff golblum and will smith.
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post May 9 2008, 10:06 AM
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So you think they would fly such a craft of a night through a thunderstorm over
some guys ranch and knowing its gone missing only to then just leave it laying around
on a field for either 1-3 weeks not even bothering to search for and pick up this so secret
technology that the world must not know about... and leave it in view for anyone to see..
if they did then what were they smoking.. even im not that dopey after a few joints smile.gif

Now if it was only just a balloon like they say it was then yeah i can go along with that.
but balloons dont break apart into pieces when they come down do they?

Another interesting note is that roswell had the first nuclear military base on the planet..
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post May 9 2008, 09:09 PM
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The US, DoD, Air Force, etc has a very large corridor of restricted air space from California into Nevada including Edwards air base for test flights of secret aircraft projects. This is so they can remain, you guessed it, secret.

That they would expose secret aircraft by flying them over populated regions around the world is rediculous. When they have a mission they fly it. Otherwise, they keep them under wraps.

They sure don't need them for reconniscence. Satelites and unmanned drones do that quite well.

Big problem with pixs is that very few people walk around with cameras having long length telephoto lenses in their pockets. Most cameras in public hands are for family snapshots and scenery. Some of the newer digitals are pretty good and getting better.

I find some of the more convincing pixs are from before 1970 when there was no CGI. Especially the ones from 1930's to the 50's. Only way to fake them then was toss a hubcap in the air and snap it quick. Some of them were impossible to debunk. If only one is real the point is made.

Another quite convincing one was photo from Geos 8 weather satellite that a Chilean TV station broadcast live during a weather report. The next day the photos had mysteriosly been removed from sats memory, but the station had downloaded and kept images. Here is a link. It was 400km wide and sort of pie shaped. Really big, obviously not intended for entering an atmosphere. It also induecd RF noise in camera as it passed satellite. Infrared and visual light cam. Streaks in pix are from interference. Limited color range is infrared artificial color and limited color range of camera.

http://www.icar1.com/EarthOrbitGEOS-8SatelliteSpace.html

Here is a large data base of photos from pre 1940 till present. Known hoaxes excluded.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/photohome.asp

The earliest written account from historians was recorded in 339 BC. The reason we know so mutch detail about Alexander the great is that he took historians with him on his conquest. Wanted to be recorded for posterity I suppose. His historians recorded that metallic disks flew over them so low that it spooked their horses.

Of course Blubook would have said in 339 BC nobody could tell swamp gas from jets, so it could have been either one.

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post May 9 2008, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (macdaddy @ May 4 2008, 01:28 AM) *
hello...? Is anybody out there...?yoo hoo..? can you hear me?


patience is a virtue wink.gif most UFO video is hazy or blurry because objects are simply too far away and video just can't be taped from too far away. Although this does raise a very good question regarding ghost videos. I have often wondered in regards to those ghost television shows, how come small DVR cameras that are being held by the investigators can pick up so called ghosts, but never has one of those high quality MOVIE cameras that are filming the investigators ever picked up a ghost? That would be the best quality? And how come they always use bad quality DVR cameras and not movie quality cameras? Those would be the best choice for someone in that field. In my opinion. Am I the only one asking this question?

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