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    Heh guys, I got successful again. I am now listening to what is called complete theta session, binural which is an app for my droid just before sleeping. During this, I repeat my intent to do a projection, fall to sleep, wake and turn the phone off, go back to sleep.

    Well last night, I think I was out again as it seemed real enough. In this one, I was flying, but this time I did it in jumps, like grabbing a hold in the air and surging forward. This is a step up from trying to run on the ground and spinning about as I have done before due to lack of real contact with the ground.

    Well, last night I went high in the air, to the edge of the atmosphere again, but I was under more control than the last time I did this trick. In that time I shot out and encountered the barrier which scared the bejeesus out of me and a some voice told me not to go beyond the barrier. This time, I just calmly looked about while the voice calmly told me to stay on the earth and not venture out. Still, I get the idea, we are to stay here on earth, but are free to roam when and where we like. You may call it a prison or a school which we agreed to or something else. My take on this is, we are what we are here, minus our greater wisdom of self which we regain later, so we are babes in the woods with guides watching our moves.

    I had a friend ask tonight if I was any wiser in the out of body state and brought back great wisdon. I had to answer, no, you start out a dimwit and you are still a dimwit out of body, LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailormon View Post
    Heh guys, I got successful again. I am now listening to what is called complete theta session, binural which is an app for my droid just before sleeping. During this, I repeat my intent to do a projection, fall to sleep, wake and turn the phone off, go back to sleep.

    Well last night, I think I was out again as it seemed real enough. In this one, I was flying, but this time I did it in jumps, like grabbing a hold in the air and surging forward. This is a step up from trying to run on the ground and spinning about as I have done before due to lack of real contact with the ground.

    Well, last night I went high in the air, to the edge of the atmosphere again, but I was under more control than the last time I did this trick. In that time I shot out and encountered the barrier which scared the bejeesus out of me and a some voice told me not to go beyond the barrier. This time, I just calmly looked about while the voice calmly told me to stay on the earth and not venture out. Still, I get the idea, we are to stay here on earth, but are free to roam when and where we like. You may call it a prison or a school which we agreed to or something else. My take on this is, we are what we are here, minus our greater wisdom of self which we regain later, so we are babes in the woods with guides watching our moves.

    I had a friend ask tonight if I was any wiser in the out of body state and brought back great wisdon. I had to answer, no, you start out a dimwit and you are still a dimwit out of body, LOL.
    Tbh it just sounds like a dream to me.
    It's good to have an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out

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    Cactus, you may be right, this time I was not awakened nor did I go from the wakened state as before, but that does not automatically discount the event. Before you judge in the future, ask questions of folks, we each have ways of judging our own experience. Many people are travelers in fact and don't remember it or if it is remembered, it is vague memories like dreams. That said, many dreams are and may be more than dreams, expand your mind. We, my wife and I are now experiencing orb's and that was no dream, nor the consequences of the event. Being closed minded, not saying you are, leads to stagnation in this area, believe and believe again and new things are possible, disbelieve and stagnate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailormon View Post
    Cactus, you may be right, this time I was not awakened nor did I go from the wakened state as before, but that does not automatically discount the event. Before you judge in the future, ask questions of folks, we each have ways of judging our own experience. Many people are travelers in fact and don't remember it or if it is remembered, it is vague memories like dreams. That said, many dreams are and may be more than dreams, expand your mind. We, my wife and I are now experiencing orb's and that was no dream, nor the consequences of the event. Being closed minded, not saying you are, leads to stagnation in this area, believe and believe again and new things are possible, disbelieve and stagnate.
    Hi, I agree being closed minded is not good, but see my signature - you don't want to be too open minded either

    I am not sure if astral projection/out of body is definitely a real phenomena, but it is one of the most likely to be real out of all paranormal phenomena IMO, but just your account above was probably just a dream and nothing more IMO.
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    I want to give this a try. Do you guys recommend any music that lowers the brain waves so i can astral project?
    anybody play ps3? add me: zswordsman, just say your from these forums.

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    i have had some success doing astral projection, it was years ago. I'm going to start keeping a dream journal again because it seems to make my dreams much more vivid, and that is a start to getting back into it again.
    i use some tricks that help me achieve an out of body experience, they may help some of you out there.
    The first thing is to get myself really into the idea, i do this about thinking about AP during the day and before going to sleep as often as i can. I may repeat in my head something like "i will have an out of body experience tonight" or something to that effect. I haven't really been able to induce one exactly at any point that i want, when i have achieved it, it is right after waking up. I make sure to remain completely still and continue to relax my body, i use meditation to try to keep my mind blank yet focused. Then i start feeling like i am spinning or rocking, this is usually accompanied by the strange sounds and voices. If i don't get excited, the spinning gets intense and i get flung out of my body. Then the thing to do is continue with that focused meditation. It helps to set an intention of where you want to go or what you want to see beforehand, thinking too much can make you slip into a dream or just wake up.

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    In as much as I was directed to this topic again I will do an update. Sorry if any of this is a repeat. In my case many of my outing or travels are the result of the others for reasons I hope are an improvement.

    Last week, I again was awakened and yes I put this out on it's own thread, but it fits here better. As usual, it was uncomfortable being drawn out of sleep and I heard myself moaning softly as I rolled over. As I was moving I viewed a tall pale female standing by the bed, yet felt no concern like this was just an ok thing to experience. As soon as this settled in, the vibrations started and I relaxed on purpose and just went with it, it was required it seems. It was not sleep paralysis as I was moving my body at the time with no problem.

    The vibrations and electrical sensations increased to strong and I went completely out, meaning no memory after this, yet I was trying to pay attention and remember. My opinion here, is, I had another obe, but not one directed or under my supervision. Both my wife and I know when these happen, even if we don't remember all of them as they leave us drugged the next morning.

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    I am going to start attempting AP again. Been reading Astral Dynamics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Darkness View Post
    I am going to start attempting AP again. Been reading Astral Dynamics.
    Hope you can remember better than I have lately. I only get little pieces to bring back such as the recent instruction not to leave the earth. Last night was one of those nights the two of us were like seemingly drugged, we both reported the same symptoms. However I told my wife this morning that something happened last night as I had powerful vibrations, but not well remembered and was exhausted today. Let me know if this takes a toll on you if you succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailormon View Post
    Hope you can remember better than I have lately. I only get little pieces to bring back such as the recent instruction not to leave the earth. Last night was one of those nights the two of us were like seemingly drugged, we both reported the same symptoms. However I told my wife this morning that something happened last night as I had powerful vibrations, but not well remembered and was exhausted today. Let me know if this takes a toll on you if you succeed.
    Not too long ago I got really close but got nervous and was scared of the process. I still haven't been able to get out like I did one time for 2 seconds. I've considered asking for help from my spirit guide. I'm going to follow Robert Bruce's steps closely. I'm looking into a lot of his stuff.


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