Thread: hypnotic suggestions to maintain awareness during abductions

Based on a lot of the testimonials of abduction -- do you want to remember your abduction?

There have been some frightening accounts of abductees that wake up during abductions. They remember the trauma of experiments, treatment and helplessness by these abusive ETs.

Originally Posted by julia52

hi all

i realize i am new, but i have come up with a theory, and would like any and all opinions on the matter

i have read a lot of the threads on this line, and i realize that hypnosis, tho at times may be a tool for regaining memories during abductions, i also realize that these same sessions could be compromised if the therapist has another agenda

however, it appears that many are still being abducted and do not remember these incidents, probably due to hypnotic suggestions by the visitors.

no one wants to be taken without their permission. so maybe the first step in stopping this violation would be awareness. in other words, not only acknowledging that yes, you are being taken, but in being able to stay conscious during the actual event.

so my question is-what about a simple, scripted hypnotic(or you could even try the rapid eye movement thing and it might work)suggestion that the next time you or i were taken, we would, instead of being in some sort of 'dream state' actually wake up and remember everything? there are many parts to our mind, and if we can do a simple suggestion to lose weight, quit smoking, etc., could we not use that same knowledge to influence ourselves to wake up totally during these events and then remember everything afterwards?

thanks for your opinion, all

j

I would say no,unless your subatomic particles(aka brain/mind/state) are as equal or superior to the ones "they" have,no

Originally Posted by ecoman

Based on a lot of the testimonials of abduction -- do you want to remember your abduction?

There have been some frightening accounts of abductees that wake up during abductions. They remember the trauma of experiments, treatment and helplessness by these abusive ETs.

thanks for answering, eco, and i will try to answer your questions as best as i can

first, lets make that plural, add the 's' in there, and then, yes, absolutely i want to remember.

it is like i have a whole life that i don't know about-it is creepy and unsettling and i find it hard to maintain without thinking about what 'might' have happened the night before. consider someone who has ptst-which i believe that many abductees have-what is the first thing that psychologists suggest, but to find out WHY they are traumatized, of course, so that the subject can begin to integrate all these parts of themselves, and so become a more whole person.

i know there are frightening accounts-and i do have some of these kinds of memories, unfortunately. but i am not suggesting regressive therapy-i read the excellent hypnosis thread and i can see that for one, there are those who have agendas and can so traumatize a possible abductee even further, and then of course, what is the point of remembering all the possible shit that they did? i mean, like i stated, at least you wouldn't feel like a big part of your life is unknown to you, but then what? how will this help you during possible future takings?

no what i am suggesting is that somehow, use this hypnosis, suggestion, whatever, probably a lot like the visitors do, except in reverse. see, i believe that they have us in some sort of 'dream state' during these abductions, perhaps programming us when they first take us as children so make successive takings easier. however, they are not that good, otherwise no one would remember anything, and it appears to me that as you get older, apparently these memories surface more, so i would guess that their original 'shields' they implemented get weaker and weaker with time, because actually our minds are much more powerful that we are aware of.

when i started really researching this, i was appalled, not for myself, but for so so many who were being taken over and over again and many times hurt repeatedly. so all i could think was how to stop it, and looked at solutions, on this thread and other places, and basically came up with diddly-squat; did not seem to be any real serious resistance out there, so i was left with the dilemma of 'just taking it' which is not in my nature

so, i figured, the first step in beginning to stop these violations was to KNOW what was going on WHILE it was going on-because then the abductees would remember very likely critical things about them to thwart these unwanted invasions. consider a scenerio where five abductees are completely conscious during the abduction the night before. they get together, and start trading ideas, and instead of bits and pieces of this experience, remember everything, including how these machines work, how these aliens work, and can compare, 'quantum' it if you will, because when you have knowledge, you can see different aspects, different possibilties. it is only those who are 'sleeping' who are caught off guard with their pants down. i never could understand those who DIDN'T want to know the truth, and i am just talking about life in general, i.e, affairs in a marriage, molest, abuse, whatever-i mean, isn't knowing the first step?

and we DO have the ability to stop the unwanted takings, and perhaps even turn it into total agreement between the parties(big maybe on that one). but first, we have to remember everything, and so when they come that night because we were 'talking' or finding 'info' or because they just had nothing better to do, we are ready for them. many believe that these aliens are more advanced than us, and i suppose that technologically they are, but in mental capacity they are way way behind us. we just need to unlock these abilities in ourselves, and take back our lives. we have the right, at least in this country, to have freedom from fear. and i believe we also have the right, in any country, to live our lives without torture and pain, we just have to know that we are, and always have been, a strong and resiliant race.

julia

your story reads just like someone experiencing hypnagogic imagery. If one who is prone to hypnagogic states is threatened by the idea of aliens while sleeping, they WILL see aliens when trying to sleep, just like anything else they may fear. Yes, these experiences are hell-a real.

i suggest that if you want the experiences to stop, learn to manipulate that aspect of your mind so that you may familiarize yourself with it.

Originally Posted by julia52

... and we DO have the ability to stop the unwanted takings, and perhaps even turn it into total agreement between the parties(big maybe on that one).

I'm not sure we can prevent it. It seems the ETs can take us anytime, any place, against our will.

I remember a poster mentioned during his abduction, asking "why?", the ET said (paraphrasing) "It will always be ..."

It's hard to comprehend on a human level the ETs intentions. Their tech and mind control powers are beyond our comprehension.

It seems we are probably at war with certain ET races (greys?). That is probably one reason of the cover up.

well don't know about any war,but I can say that our goverment is making me sick sometimes ...
P.S.-Why are people so consumed by this war, is it racional to think this way?

Originally Posted by deniks

well don't know about any war,but I can say that our goverment is making me sick sometimes ...
P.S.-Why are people so consumed by this war, is it racional to think this way?

From my reading, wars exist, always.
There are wars between human and ETs.

Here on Earth, we continue to fight amongst ourselves and, similarly, there are wars & conflict between different species of ETs.

Originally Posted by Spacemushrooms

your story reads just like someone experiencing hypnagogic imagery. If one who is prone to hypnagogic states is threatened by the idea of aliens while sleeping, they WILL see aliens when trying to sleep, just like anything else they may fear. Yes, these experiences are hell-a real.

i suggest that if you want the experiences to stop, learn to manipulate that aspect of your mind so that you may familiarize yourself with it.

i think we both need to get to know each other better, space

i did not feel threatened by aliens, not until i was i aware six months ago. and now, because of what i found, not only am i not threatened anymore, but invigorated. a challenge to overcome, if you understand my meaning. for awhile i was quite depressed about it, but now i look at it like a learning experience, perhaps one that i can learn and share with others and we can together, find solutions

if you would like i would be happy to, in detail, talk about physical evidence that coraborates my story....to me, anyway, the evidence is truly in my family's disclosure, no metal pieces in our feet, ears, mouths(yeah, have those too), can come close

i would prefer, tho, that we could do that on pms, if you don't mind, just to keep the opinions flowing on this thread-if not, sure, i will disclose here on this thread whatever you would like

i wish the 'experiences' WOULD stop for me and my 23 year old daughter and 4 year old grandchild-no, not mass hypnosis, they came to me...but i do feel that more than mind manipulation is needed to stop this horror

by the way, wouldn't mind getting back to the topic, if no one minds

so...what do you guys think about being able to manipulate your 'states' with suggestion? i mean, why couldn't we?

might be a tool, is all i am saying

julia

Originally Posted by deniks

well don't know about any war,but I can say that our goverment is making me sick sometimes ...
P.S.-Why are people so consumed by this war, is it racional to think this way?

thanks for responding deniks

so..what do you think about this concept? do you think we can tap into part of our brains to overcome possible mind manipulation?