Now will someone listen...please????

**Ben** · 10-12-2006, 11:42 PM

Troops out of Iraq call from the man in charge of the British Forces -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6046332.stm

The head of the British Army has said the presence of UK armed forces in Iraq "exacerbates the security problems".

In an interview in the Daily Mail, Sir Richard Dannatt, Chief of the General Staff, is quoted as saying the British should "get out some time soon".

Ben

Edited to add - But by acknowledging that we make the situation 'Worse' if we do not withdraw, then it can only be perceived as 'Political' and not strategic/military reasons that keep us there - in other words it's to suit the politicians - and no army should be in that situation. That's my opinion anyway.

**silverglance** · 10-12-2006, 11:51 PM

I can't wait to see what the Bush admin says about these remarks. Gen. Richard Dannett has brass, for sure and my admiration May it help get the troops out of there.

This story will be interesting to watch and find out more about. I wonder what led up to having such a prominant leader announce that it's past time to go?

Mary

**Faeden** · 10-12-2006, 11:52 PM

Well even if we pulled out now anyway (including the Americans), it would make little difference, as we already have our puppet government in there doing our bidding anyway.

**iwant2believe2** · 10-13-2006, 12:13 AM

Back down now and you send a clear message of resignation...

**Ben** · 10-13-2006, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by iwant2believe2;288624
[b]Back down now and you send a clear message of resignation...

Don't back down and more of our people die for what? A political statement? Surely our troops are worth more?

Ben

**iwant2believe2** · 10-13-2006, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Ben;288625
[b]Don't back down and more of our people die for what? A political statement? Surely our troops are worth more?

Ben

Its gone beyond a political statement or move for oil, Ben...you know that now...we cant help what its become...all we can do now is fight what it will be tomorrow...surely this world is worth more?

**silverglance** · 10-13-2006, 12:22 AM

Its gone beyond a political statement or move for oil, Ben...you know that now...we cant help what its become...

Tutu, what has it become? I'm not sure what you mean? Like, east-vs-west out in the open after centuries of dishormony?

Mary

**Ben** · 10-13-2006, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by iwant2believe2;288626
[b]Its gone beyond a political statement or move for oil, Ben...you know that now...we cant help what its become...all we can do now is fight what it will be tomorrow...surely this world is worth more?

I see where you are coming from now and have some sympathy with that but the type of war our troops are engaged in there is not one we can win....don't fight them on their terms - fight them on ours....

Ben

**iwant2believe2** · 10-13-2006, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by silverglance;288627
[b]Tutu, what has it become? I'm not sure what you mean? Like, east-vs-west out in the open after centuries of dishormony?

Mary

All has degenerated into a cesspool of religious fanaticism...give in to the fanatics and you might as well burn your charters of human rights and freedoms right now...they will not stop Mary...

**iwant2believe2** · 10-13-2006, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by Ben;288628
[b]I see where you are coming from now and have some sympathy with that but the type of war our troops are engaged in there is not one we can win....don't fight them on their terms - fight them on ours....

Ben

And what are our terms, Ben? They will not contain themselves to their own borders...and nevermind those they hold captive within to their own genocidal murderous atrocities..