Thread: What's Wrong With America?

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Originally Posted by SOUL-DRIFTER

So, it's ignorance- lack of knowledge and information?

Ignorance...no, we are not ignoring truth. More deprived of the facts and occurances so we will not know what all the truth is.

I think your comment is right on SD

i don't like how i have to have faith in my government, in a sense that undermines what i would call my sense of national security. It feels too much like going to church sometimes, trusting a church is hit or miss.

I wonder if that always has to be a reality, is there any way to settle that type of uncertainty?

i have got to go to work in a few minutes, but i really want to read your links. I don't want to give a hasty response either. Sometimes it just looks like evolution to me, the jungle is a harsh environment for any creature. At what point are we not in a jungle of some kind?

Originally Posted by Dingo Brains

I see intimidation, though I fail to see anything racial here... Those security blokes could just as well be Asian, White or whatever... Regardless, their security company and or the law, allows them to walk about in a public place with drawn weapons...

Anyone walking around with a drawn weapon and then subtlely waving it around, be they a teenager, a cop, security or adult on the street is intimidating... It's a show that if there is trouble, that they are willing to use that weapon and not necessarily negotiate first... It's not like there was a smell of trouble at that location and there was hardly anyone there...

I've never seen this before... Security, though some have guns and batons usually keep them located on their body ready for use when needed... but having then drawn and subtley waving them about ... dunno... or is that permitted in American? If so, is that practice widespread by security people? Just curious...

Dingo
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Dingo read the entire article and you will find they were not any type of security. They were Black Panther gang members. Do I need to explain to u guys exactly what the Black Panthers stand for. Witnesses also claimed they called a white voter a CRACKER

[QUOTE=comfortablynumb;9423770]How do you feel about Afro-American soldiers that returned from WW1 & WW2 being lynched?

Obviously ur not reading my entire posts CN. Read all of it and you will realize that ur comment does not make sense regarding what I stated.

Originally Posted by chrisvis

Um, no its pretty easy. Blacks are treated better in the judicial system now a days because of fear and back lash by groups like the NAACP. I guarantee if OJ SIMPSON was white he would be guilty as hell. To say that blacks are treated worse then whites in the judicial system is retarded. A long time ago America used to have a racist judicial system against minorities, but now America is absolutely with out a doubt a reverse racist nation.

Here CN, this is were I was talking about present day America. Clearly you will see I am aware of the past treatment of Afro Americans.

Originally Posted by kirin-rex

I would have to say that the statistics do not support your assertion. OJ Simpson is not representative of African American treatment by the judicial system. He was given special considerations due to his wealth and status, not his race.

Joint Center:: DataBank


Study Finds African Americans Convicted of Killing Whites Most Likely to be Executed | Equal Justice Initiative



http://www.terry.uga.edu/~mustard/sentencing.pdf

Not about race you say? Here is a court room sketch of the final jury in the OJ Simpson trial which had 9 blacks and 3 whites. (the original jury was not politically correct) Need I say more about reverse racism in America?
The O. J. Simpson Trial: The Jury

Originally Posted by Xeno

I didn't see any intimidation either (in the way it was described, for voting purposes), Fen. And I agree. The people with the camera approached the men first. He said "You got my back?", either trying to set the air for aggression or with the expectation of it.
We also need to question why they're there. If they are security. They're supposed to be intimating.
Why do you think the Riot squads wear black uniforms. Because it's the most intimating, belittling colour.
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I see one major, outstanding problem with America...
There are other problems like it's warfaring nature recently, but it is by far not alone in that aspect. It's a sin repeated by almost every country on the globe.
No, America's problem is it's people.
Whining, spoilt little brats. Assholes who troll just to get a reaction. People who've gained such a comfortable life at the slightest inconvenience they cry that the entire country is a dictatorship.
Idiots who troll, or creating entire fictitious events in order to gain sympathy.
I can understand people who're suffering from mental disorders succumbing to this, and that isn't their own fault. But, it seems an entirely new mental disorder affects a small chunk of the modernised would. A type of egocentricism, but so prominent that I find it difficult to class it as just a personality trait.
They're like children... With their thoughts revolving around me, myself, and I.

True, you'll get this in any modernised country. And, note this doesn't apply to almost everyone on this forum; it is a very tiny section of the population in general, and even smaller here.
But yes, that is my little rant.

Girliath, sorry for this being a reference to an almost ancient post; but I believe America's incarceration issue is a result of 1 major thing. A flawed judicial system... It works on the belief that you must vote innocent is there is a reasonable doubt. However, in any rational mind, there is always going to be a reasonable doubt unless presented with absolute evidence, with hardly ever happens. Most people realise this, at least subconsciously, and will in many cases simply ignore that; voting guilty often based upon 2 things, 1) their personal beliefs (which includes prejudices...Chris....). 2) The strength of the evidence at hand. (Or sometimes, both, such as how eyewitnesses have a greater effect than forensic evidence, then the latter is science and objective, and the former has been proven to be inaccurate and easily manipulated)

And Chris... Psychological studies have even shown that coming well dressed to a court case drastically increased the chance of an innocent verdict. Showing a massive flaw that I pointed out, the judicial system isn't usually motivated by objective evidence, but my personal beliefs.

But, there are lots of criminals free in other countries... People who deserve to be away, aren't.

Dude you just proved u speak before you listen. Read the entire article and you will realize that they are not security and they admit to being black panther gang members, they dont even have to they were waring the gang jackets. When he said he was security he was being sarcastic. Any smart person would of known that because Black Panthers are not security officers they are an admitted racist gang!

Originally Posted by rorechof

CV posts: Here is a clip of two Black Panther members with night sticks intimating white people who are going to vote.
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Hey Chris... Do you EVEN KNOW how the Black Panthers started in Oakland California?

Or are you just posting the 'racial party line'?

Did you know that it was not unlawful in California to carry an unloaded weapon and you could carry the ammo for that weapon on your person during that period?

DID you know BLACKS were being targeted by the Police in Oakland and around the Nation at that time?

DID You know the Blacks in Oakland California decided to protect themselves from Police Brutality/Intimidation by arming themselves in this most legal way I described above?

DID YOU KNOW the Panthers were 'allied' with the movement in America to eradicate racism; to help empower the Elderly (Grey Panthers); to help further Woman's rights...

Or are you just Quoting the 'Party Line' of the White American Male...? ~rore

Hey Rore, 50%White 50% Native American. But hey since Im on here un officially prosecuting Black Panther gang members that must make me just a white guy...right? Well hold on now Barack Obama is 50%White & 50%Black; shouldn't he be called the first Millado president instead of the first black president no because then he would get less sympathy votes being the reverse racist nation we are.