Thread: Sandra Fluke

Originally Posted by CDChronlin

it was rough to find in the pile of conservative dribble on google...
but here.

NBC:

it says NBC, but no...
its more conservative dribble.

Thank you!

Lol the us military offers 100% socialized medicine. And practices it daily in the VA. My wife and I have paid out of our own pocket for birth control I don't have a problem doing it. We decided long ago not to bring children in a world where they are used to fight in wars and further the needs of the greedy.

Originally Posted by kellyb

I'm some sort of leftish libertarian, I think.

Honestly, these recent contraception wars seem like yet another example of how it seems like "they" might be playing "us." One team is supposed to go OMG IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD IF INSURANCE COMPANIES AREN'T FORCED TO COVER REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH FOR WOMEN!!!! and the other is supposed to go OMG I DON'T WANT MY INSURANCE MONEY PAYIN' FER TEH SLUTZ!!!

Well I agree with you on these issues and this subject so that I guess makes me a KellyBist who follows Kellybism but I do have some latent Nivekian tendencies.

Seriously I am with you on these issues.

As for fat boy I would expect him to call someone he disagreed with a slut. It is the level he is at. He has always been a pathetic bully.

When you have a small pee pee and are insecure about having a fat head and butt like he is you tend to lash out.

He is pathetic.

People like him survive by being rude and shocking their audiences. He is to the right I suppose what Howard Stern is to the left.

Originally Posted by seen'um

Lol the us military offers 100% socialized medicine. And practices it daily in the VA. My wife and I have paid out of our own pocket for birth control I don't have a problem doing it. We decided long ago not to bring children in a world where they are used to fight in wars and further the needs of the greedy.

you're one of few the VA programs actually work for.
the older vets have to fight and struggle just for a damn checkup.
and if you're unfortunate to have a serious ailment, then theres an even smaller chance the VA's going to help

Originally Posted by seen'um

Lol the us military offers 100% socialized medicine. And practices it daily in the VA. My wife and I have paid out of our own pocket for birth control I don't have a problem doing it. We decided long ago not to bring children in a world where they are used to fight in wars and further the needs of the greedy.

Well... just because the VA is government run, doesn't necessarily make it a socialist endeavor.
In all actuality it more closely resembles a private health organization that caters to a specific crowd, then it does socialized medicine.

Evidence of this can be found in the fact that the VA can and does externalize costs, usually onto veterans.

With regards to radicalizing the US, I think that there's a fair amount of that going on. What people have to look at is what they can do to affect the process one way or another, and whether they're ok with the direction things are going.

The US, whether people want to face up to it or not, has entered the bureaucracy phase of government. People can continue to close their eyes to that fact, which will make the bureaucracies more and more powerful, or we can embrace that fact and move on to the next stage (which is socialism). We can't go backwards on the scale without a horrible oppression on the part of the government, and, even if we really can go back, the context of the US landscape (as a whole, not just a facet of US life) is such that the giant bureaucracies will still have a huge amount of power.

It's not just the va duh it a us goverment program that even congress and the senate members can join. Goverment hospitals and there staff run.

Originally Posted by seen'um

It's not just the va duh it a us goverment program that even congress and the senate members can join. Goverment hospitals and there staff run.

what are these magical hospital,s that no other Vet has ever been fortunate enough to have?
where is the difference between this program and the VA?

Originally Posted by CDChronlin

what are these magical hospital,s that no other Vet has ever been fortunate enough to have?
where is the difference between this program and the VA?

San Antonio has BAMC the largest burn center, and center for the intrepid. And Wolford Hall hospital. Oh not to forget the Audie Murphy VA hospital.

Dumb... dumb dumb dumb dumb....

not you.

my original post was dumb. just gonna ignore it now