Visit To Hell?

**chrisvis** · 03-24-2009, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by journey

All the human beings are connected as only one being, we are actually the same being, different aspects of the same being, independent from the religions or credences.

We all have a superior I, and a soul as well. The superior I is in fact our direct connection to the source, We all are connected to the source. therefore, all the superior I´s are interconnected to the same being, so all humans beings are the same being.

The light described by the persons who have died and returned, is the superior I, the canal in connection with the source.

Your credences gives the form of feedback that you obtain in front of the Light. If you are a Buddhist or catholic or Fundamentalist, or dolphin worshiper, you will have a feedback related to what you believe.

So your saying that what ever I want my eternity to be.....will be? What if a child molester invents a religion based on molesting children. Will he or she get to screw children after they die for all eternity. (thats what you would call the feed back....right?)

**iwant2believe2** · 03-24-2009, 09:57 PM

One thing is certain...beyond any doubt...all of us...from the religious nut to the equally nutty atheist...will find out the truth at the end of our life span...which is really no more than a passing moment amid countless eons of time...think about it...in a very short order...you will know...I hope its what you believed it to be...

**journey** · 03-25-2009, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by chrisvis

So your saying that what ever I want my eternity to be.....will be? What if a child molester invents a religion based on molesting children. Will he or she get to screw children after they die for all eternity. (thats what you would call the feed back....right?)

Interesting example you expose.
Yes, what you have stated is possible, since these are thoughts-forms created by the people.

Our Superior Self is wise, I do not know what kind of archetype, would show to this people when they die. I believe they will see some archetype related to their culture or religion rather than their sexual tendencies.

**chrisvis** · 03-25-2009, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by journey

Interesting example you expose.
Yes, what you have stated is possible, since these are thoughts-forms created by the people.

Our Superior Self is wise, I do not know what kind of archetype, would show to this people when they die. I believe they will see some archetype related to their culture or religion rather than their sexual tendencies.

What if sexuality is what their religion is based on? What is an archetype?

**journey** · 03-25-2009, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by chrisvis

What if sexuality is what their religion is based on? What is an archetype?

I think I have answered that already.

About achetype

According to Jung, the archetypes or essential images are “ forms or collective images that happen in all the Earth as constitutive elements of the myths and, at the same time, as indigenous and individual products of unconscious origin ”. They are patterns forming symbols that repeat themselves along the history and the cultures, in the entire humanity, and across them they look for expression of psychic energies. The archetypes them selves are inaccessible: we go so far as to know them, and never completely, because they materialize in concrete symbols. its essential character does not allude only to that are very ancient in the history of man, but they can be generated in any other historical period, even in the current one. The archetypes are not innate inherited ideas as such, but forms, tendencies, patterns that sub lie to the formation of symbols. Examples: the archetype of the miraculous child (for example Christ, Hermes, Zeus, etc.), the archetype of the universal mother (for example the Mother Nature, the "grandmother" in certain Indians, or the feminine principle of the oriental religions), the archetype of the hero, the archetype of the conservation (the eternally alive fire of Heraclitus or the beginning of conservation of the physics), etc. In certain occasions (for example in the myths and dreams), the individual can extract to the surface these archetypes

**chrisvis** · 03-25-2009, 07:21 PM

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I think I have answered that already.

No you have not answered me. What if their sexual tendencies our the religion?

**journey** · 03-25-2009, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by chrisvis

No you have not answered me. What if their sexual tendencies our the religion?

Re read post #23 on this thread, first paragraph.

Planning to make a new religion based on sex? If so, you are not invented anything new.

**chrisvis** · 03-26-2009, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by journey

Re read post #23 on this thread, first paragraph.

Planning to make a new religion based on sex? If so, you are not invented anything new.

???????????? Now your just dodging and spinning.

**journey** · 03-26-2009, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by chrisvis

???????????? Now your just dodging and spinning.

I do not know what you mean with that.
I think my answer was clear enough.

Yes, what you have stated is possible, since these are thoughts-forms created by the people.

Yes it is possible that an individual will experience that kind of "reality", not because it is real, but it is real for his perception only
If you read more carefully what I have written, you will understand what I say.

And now it is you avoiding to answer my question.

**chrisvis** · 03-26-2009, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by journey

I do not know what you mean with that.
I think my answer was clear enough.

Yes it is possible that an individual will experience that kind of "reality", not because it is real, but it is real for his perception only
If you read more carefully what I have written, you will understand what I say.

And now it is you avoiding to answer my question.

Right, so your idea of eternity is an individuals dream basically because it only exist to them. So there fore a child molester can molest children in their after life because its only a dream, so the children do not truly exist. That makes better sense now.