Many islamic nations and people being persecuted are they the only way of life,that globalisation has yet to change?waddayafink?

Um, the idea of an NWO is one of the biggest crocks I've ever seen. In order to have that much control over a society you would need to hire 2 people for ever person you want to keep an eye on. Why the heck would anyone want that much responsibility? And there was someone that ever did they would spend so much time putting down resurrections the control would never last more than 4 years. Even communist nations never held as much power over the people as what the supposed NWO wants to impose.

The reason why American citizens are losing so many rights is because out of our fear we have voted them away. As much as we want a bunch of freedoms, politicians will impose laws that they think will get them voted back in. If the squeaky wheel is asking for protection over freedom, they're going to vote for more and more government intervention in the daily lives of the people. If you want your freedoms back, vote them back. Run for government and make the change yourself. If you don't think this is possible, ask yourself why Ron Paul is a politician in the first place?

And that is the way they control people with few men.

Point being, if you stay quiet and do nothing but complain your rights will continually be voted away. If you call or write your congressman and senators once in awhile and let your views and logic be heard, more than likely they'll vote what is right. As stated above, the squeeky wheel gets the grease. So become squeeky.

This post has been edited by JDorfler: May 3 2008, 02:17 AM

the squeaky wheel get replaced.senators,congressmen,politicians are not in it for us.you don't get a choice or a say in todays society,its run by the corporate elite.voting is an election illusion.the authoroties know exactly who is going to govrn next,whoever they choose.whoever will row the boat their direction.somthings you cannot complain about,freedom is one.

Have you ever talked to your representatives? Until recently I had talked to mine at least once a year. What state are you from? As long as you are courteous and respectful without kissing up, they listen. Heck, I even talked to a GA senator on hop from Ballad to Kuwait. He listened, b/c I'm from North Augusta SC, about a stones throw from Augusta GA. They do listen, but you have to take the time to communicate. One of the best ways is to just show up at your State's Capital and show up at their offices. Everyone is very nice and love to talk with you. If they are unavailable, just leave a note with their interns, and I can guarantee you that they'll call you and listen. I find that most of the folks that complain do nothing about it. What have you done? Who are your representatives? What state are you from? Squeeky wheel does not get replaced, unless you are complaining to your own boss. Remember, representatives work for you. They want your vote. Even if they vote mostly for their business friends, if they feel they'll lose too many votes if they pass certain laws that aren't popular with the common folks, they won't vote it in. These folks are very much human. Trust me, their farts even stink just like ours do.

Bottom line, I hear complaints, but I don't see anybody really making contact with their representatives. They especially like it when you tell them you aren't a registered Democrat, but a Republican, but the voting booth doesn't care on election day. In other words you can register as anything, but you still can vote for anybody, which let's the door open for co-operation, smart discussion, and no sign of, "He ain't voting for me no matter what I do and say, so I just have to nod my head and smile."

I finkadaddi ya yoda thadda ya yoppidai speldayop di di nodundestanddayoppopp.

No really, though... I don't know what you're asking.

hi jdorfler, i'm from the uk.i understand what you are saying,there are some good people in politics,who start with good intentions but once in the set,they have to tow the line.in england i vote,The British Nationalist Party.check uk's currrent prime minister couldn't organise a booze-up in a brewery.

Ah, gotcha. I really don't know the political climate in the UK. I know a lot of Brits, and when it comes to government they seem, for a lack of better term, beat down. In the US, the president, no matter who it is, isn't going to sway much of anything. He is more of a head figure. Congress, the Senate, and the Judicial system are where it's at to be heard. Especially the Judicial system. Remember, the judge is just there to preside over the court, and only pass sentence if found guilty. It's the jury that must decide if you are guilty or not. Anyway, enough about all of that.

there's a big hoo-ha at the moment over a 10p tax rate.could cost gordon brown his job,this tax rate will hit the lower paid and single people who don't qualify for tax credits.i have a family,only slighlty better off.i'm a taxi driver and the rising cost of fuel is pushing fares up and finishing smaller operations who are cheaper.how's things in america,who'd do you think will win the elections,obama,mcain,clinton. i think clinton,but if i was american i'd vote obama for change.

As far as the President goes, I'm not that worried. I'm more worried about our local state government. If you read the history of South Carolina you would know we have a tendency to tell the US Federal Government to shove off when they try to do things we don't like. We were one of the first to tell the Queen's men to pack their bags, and the first to tell Lincoln we were paying his taxes. There are Federal laws right now that South Carolinians do not pay attention to at all. The Feds know better than try to enforce them however.

I think McCain will win. Not everything you see on TV is true about the US citizens. We're not all retarded fat folks with an 8th grade education. If anybody will come clean about the UFO thing, McCain would be the one. Obama, he keeps talking about change, but he has no substance. Hillary talks about change, but her answers won't work. As long as the candidates try not to change our constitution or try to "interpret" it, I don't care. The right to Free speech means I can say what I want, no matter how stupid it is. The right to bare arms means I have a right to protect myself. I am pretty sure you get the point. The reason why any government would stop these rights is b/c they fear their people because they know they screwed up. The government should fear it's people. That's how it should be. A people should never fear it's government.

i agree,after all its the people who put them there.you have more freedom in the states.we cannot bear arms to protect ourselves,we can only use reasonable force.protests, even peaceful ones are accompanied by an intimidating police force,you aren't allowed to protest in certain places,like parliament and downing street.Mcain is also bush's choice too.what is bush like,i like him,he has a sense of humour.

i don't think americans are retarded fat folks.as we have some of those too.i have yet to visit the states,the americans i have met(not many)have been nice,funny and generous.and you have some wicked cars and i love the deep southern drawl.if i met a girl with that i'd be off to vegas to get married after the first date.

Bush, believe it or not is a nice guy. Unfortunately he really does believe in everything he has done so far. His aids really cut him off from the real world. I'm pretty sure if he was a little more able to see how things really are, and this is true with all presidents in my opinion, I think he would have made different decisions. No one, and I mean no one, wakes up in the morning and purposely wants to hurt someone else, but they will do everything in their power to protect their own.

That's why it's so important to get to know your local reps. They have a better ear to the president than you can ever have.

We call the girls you talk about GRITS (Girls Raised In The South). They'll take care of you, but make sure you find a good one. Just like any group in the world, there are good ones and bad ones. Personally my girl is a filipina. She's a great girl. She is just like a GRITS, but doesn't have the accent. Yah, I'm in heaven.

hmmm ... one only needs to control the media ... right?

I am not so sure about 'the biggest crocks ever' ... Rockefeller may well be an integral part of the whole NWO ... just take a look at the Federal Reserve Act ... designed to regulate bankers and was written on a private island off the coast of Georgia in 1910 by bankers representing the JP Morgan, Rockefeller, and Rothschild!

It was Jeckyll Island. The reason why they did it, of course, was money, not control. That whole thing was blown way out of proportion. They decided the gold standard was a has been idea. Technically, more lives were ruined over the gold standard. Any pile of gold, no matter how small, was supposed to be turned over to the US government to help bolster it's gold reserves. Want to talk about Gustapo tactics. Let it be known you had a few gold nuggets buried underneath your basement during the time of the gold standard. All gold was to be turned in and gold certificates were to be issued. Also, remember that that meeting was a secret get together. Everything that was discussed on Jeckyll Island has never truly come forth. Everything you have read on what was actually said there has all been speculation and hearsay. The Federal Reserve idea was just one of very many things that were discussed to try to curb government growth and control.

Rockefeller was a greedy man, but he honestly believed the bigger his empire the more jobs he could create for his fellow man. If the work stopped, then people wouldn't be paid. If people weren't paid, they wouldn't have food for their families. The gold standard was getting in the way of further progress of creating jobs. The reason why they wanted the Federal Reserve to be like it is is so that greedy politicians, which politicians back in the day were way more corrupt than they are today, couldn't mess around with it.

Rockefeller and the rest were old school business men. The ideal businessmen created jobs and products for the people. There was a wonderful line in The Sovereign State of ITT that sums it up best, to paraphrase "We're ITT. It's our job to create products for the benefit of mankind. Through the creation of these products we create jobs, thus we support families and communities. We will let no government on Earth get in the way of this. How many honest jobs do governments create? Governments impede business."

That's an old school business mentality. Right or wrong, business men through out time have always felt they were doing God's work. This mentality started with the first business owners during the times of monarch ruled Europe. They looked at royalty as the oppressors of the people. And, they were right. I have 3 businesses. I employ a lot of people. Every decision I make will either expand my businesses or it may cause me to lay people off. I prefer not to lay people off. If I was in the forefront of business such as Rockefeller and I could take away more power from the government to help my workers and their families, I would. The only reason why the government went after Rockefeller was b/c they wanted to tax him more. The higher the taxes, the slower his growth would become. That's why Rockefeller did everything he ever did. He honestly believed working for him was one of the greatest things a person could do. He gave housing to the families of his workers. He gave free food to his workers. He gave free education to his workers.

Was he wrong for buying out the local police to have them forcefully stop the coal strikes? Yes, but he felt he was between a rock and hard place. If the strike continued it would have cost thousands of jobs. Thousands of families would have been starving b/c the men couldn't work. He told the cops to stop the strike, not kill anyone.

Everyone points to the Rockefellers when the NWO is discussed. People need to look at the complete picture to realize what the Rockefellers were actually doing was to prevent a large controlling government. Did he always make the right decisions? No. Did he actually think he was making the right decisions? Yes.

Hi macdaddy, just wanted to say I completely agree.

Muslims are easy to demonize, look "foreign" and "different" - and have dared to resist the NWO thugs masquerading as our "democratically elected" leaders.

Since our system (Israel/US/UK/EU/UN/NATO/Banks/Multis) is corrupt and degenerate, and is clearly destroying the planet and ruining the lives of hundreds of millions of people, Muslims are completely right to resist it by any means at their disposal. And I say that as a Christian.

www.radioislam.org

"Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change its perceptions." -- Henry Kissinger, World Affairs Council Press Conference, Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel , April 19th 1994;

"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." --Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995);

"We shall have a World government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent."--James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, before the U.S. Senate.

http://www.missionislam.com/nwo/illuminati.htm

hapax check this out http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JophfMG65cc&...feature=related

Good old GRIDKEEPEER or John Lenard Walson videos on orbiting monsters.
I keep on asking him to survey the Lunar Landing sites.
The Tesla UFO with a Tesla beam can take out and nuke threat on the ground.
In orbit, then perhaps after launch as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=175Peln_Y4o&feature=email

My comment under id ay youtube:
teslaandlyne (4 days ago) -1
You are so bad GRIDKEEPER with your fuzzy and unidentified monsters that the international Illuminati gangsters refuse to identify on FOX TV International Broadcasting. Hiding 911, JFK, JR, Forestall, Patton and Tesla.. such bad boys but you are good, you caught them with duh we can't show you Lunar Landing sites of orbital activity any more.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzWs1NcNC34&feature=email


teslaandlyne (3 days ago) +1
The best yet for my search of Lunar Landers. The Illuminati will never show us the Moon again, they wish to talk about Mars. I say we have unfinished business on the surface of the Moon. Anyone, just note where you see a Lander, thanks. What is OM. I see the Illuminati FRAUD patrol was here earlier to stir up dis info. I'm cell ready by a google for airlinemusic and take the link in the sig at the Advanced Physics Forum. Read me on trains and planes of things never heard before, or the opposite.


One plus one minus, batting zero.
One JLW post vanished today, not here.

What Walson photographs are merely satellites in orbit. He does not reveal which satellites (although he most certainly knows which ones they are) appear in his photographs to create an air of mystery. If he was transparent about what he was doing you would not be so intrigued. He claims to have an 8-inch telescope which does not have the resolving power to see any man-made remnants at lunar landing sites. He would need a telescope as wide as a football field is long, because the moon is one thousand times further away than those satellites are and the pictures of the satellites are already right at the resolving limit of his telescope.

Yeah, I better not ask any more but its more about posing the question about
Lunar Landings than to have him do anything about it.

Did you see the dragon fly or what looks like a crane.
What has a long extension like some sort of ion accelerator.

I can't find the post but said it must be a Tesla beam weapon
to knock out nukes after launch and on the ground.