I read in newspaper in last five years died more than five milion kids under age five in porest countries in the world becouse shortage food and medicine,in this countrie for mistake people pay huge price,because in other countries people can make unimaginable amount of mistakes and they desire food .Welcome on Earth,freeworld for ones and slavery for others.That why Americans or Europeans are against free world,they wonna eat better for the same job,their need mamy and dady they wouldn't be able to compete in realy free world.

How does this fit into genocide?
Many third world countries suffer for lack of education.

We abonded by our dumb creations(laws,boders,socisl systems)one of the most powerfull Laws of Nature :Natural Selections.IN healhty system natural selection keep you healthy and active(you enjoy more life)and with this one entire system is good.It's not about killing and murder,if amount of people wchich lives today would had similar start would be best for everyone,by boders we created something like cast system in India ,by place of birth we giving much more chances to once than others,.Everyone has some natural possibilities,everyone of us is genius in something,problem is to determine it and go for it,in today world we follow money not this what is good for us,with some competition you couldn't afford to do something against your nature because your to survive would be much smaller,if do something what is in line with your possibilities you really happy doing it and and this makes your chances much higher and whatever you doing benefits everyone ,if you hate what you doing but you are doing it because money is no way won't affect you .your family negative way.We created dumb systems in name of humanity wchich against humanity,systems like those are abusive and with beginning idea of helping few with time you must help more and more,components are less and less healthy ,how many people is playing games,why because they know they can do it,but if to many is playing games someone has to pay a price,this kids not guilty of nothing this is a price for abonding NATURAL LAWS.GET IT

SD....I agree this does not qualify as genocide.......but chairman mao was quite ruthless his purges and to keep his people down.....if memory serves the totals were close to 30 million dead...and this was since World War 2

Another somekind of joke funny"highly developed" human funnybeings is UN.IN my opinion ,they make to many problems from simple things,we suppoustu give them let say two years for solve all boders ,put on paper natural laws and we be good,this what this company achived in last fifty years ,it's good time to solve it or change in some international porno movie company at least humans good gain some profits not all te time waiste energy and resources for idiotysm.what kind of democracy is that ones votes are more importnant tthan others,this can look like equal system for everyone only who has special votes,for many on another side is nothing else like totalitarian system.look this way is dying few years old good kid who is short of food,on another side we are giving a hand to some one who choose selfdestructive way(drugs,alchol) ,fixing this well educeted very often bad choices man is equal to amount wchich could save thousands sometimes kids wchich never got a chance ,what kind of humanitarism is this,what kind of justice is it.In Singapoure is no problem with drugs ,miracle not if you cut with very small amount is death penalty,nature is saying the same ,this cost everyone to much ,I am drug addict clean for one month and I know why is so many sick and unhappy people,

You know how was killed in South and North America native people by europeans ,100mln.It is not about numbers is about to change it.I am trying to show you ,is something wrong badly in this world and we have to come back to natural laws,I dont think we capable to create better is more about precise those wchich we know ,discover wchich we dont know and just apply to them.This kids ,milions wchich died to early is payment ,is on us we are abonding natural laws by giving us more chances in the beginning,and protect ourself.me and you we are guity of this crime ,nothing in universe just happen ,for everything is reson,we are playing and changing things wchich we really do not understand ,this genocide is effect of our failed systems wchich we created.I dont agree with people we need parents entire life,we need sometime to grew up and later we suppoustu pay or get price for our choices,exists choices wchich in healthy system if make you chances goes down a lot ,but if someone choose having knowledge what this mean let him go down.I used drugs for three years ,this is one big gaming company.You giving everyone a choice ,drugs and alcohol suppoustu be free,in the same store you have food for wchich you must pay and free drugs and alcohol,if you choose it in highly competitive world you must be really good to make it.

The problems with the choices that people make and their conequences, are for people to change.
As you pointed out, experiences change you and so will the experiences of today and the future change those choices and hopefully make us a better people and society as a result.
One must get burned by fire to best understand and respect it. So it goes with the many other things in life and society as a whole.

I wish people would stop blaming America for everything. It's true that America has caused (and is causing) all kinds of problems all over the world, but people around the world make their own problems too.

It is a tragedy that we are spending so much on this war against Iraq when 5,000 children die every day from diseases and illnesses caused by lack of clean water, while 16,000 kids die from hunger. That's 21,000 children A DAY from lack of the two most basic things we need to survive: food and clean water. That's SEVEN 9/11s every single day, or like having 9/11 about every three and a half hours, every single day without end. Screw the "war on terror". Where's the war on THIS?

That said: America can only do so much. How much of our food aid has been confiscated by 3rd world governments and sold so they can buy more guns and ammo to fight their civil wars? As soon as the aid workers leave, the soldiers, guerrillas, and so on move in and take almost everything we leave behind.

The U.S. once tried to pay for a highway in Afghanistan, years ago after the Russians left. We thought we'd support their economy by giving them the money and letting local contractors build the road. The problem was corruption and embezzlement. By the time each official and manager in the chain of command took his 'cut' from the aid money that was supposed to go for the highway, there was hardly anything left to use to build the road. They made a road that wasn't much more than rocks with a thin layer of sticky oil to give it color, and within two years it was dirt road again. Afghanistan is not the only country that does this, but when America offers to send OUR people in to build a road FOR them, they get all upset and refuse. They get insulted and say "What? You think we can't build a road?" Well, YEAH!

I don't deny that the U.S. uses cheap labor in other countries. I don't deny that we've assassinated foreign political leaders, fomented rebellions, propped up fascist monsters and crushed democratically elected leaders. I don't deny that we use our gigantic political, economic and military strength to try to rule the world. It's all true. What isn't true is the idea that America is SOLELY responsible for the world's problems.

If the people in those countries would look up from their g*DD*m wars long enough, maybe THEY could try to figure out how to feed their people.

[quote name='kirin-rex' date='Mar 17 2008, 08:13 PM' post='351247']
I wish people would stop blaming America for everything. It's true that America has caused (and is causing) all kinds of problems all over the world, but people around the world make their own problems too.

It is a tragedy that we are spending so much on this war against Iraq when 5,000 children die every day from diseases and illnesses caused by lack of clean water, while 16,000 kids die from hunger. That's 21,000 children A DAY from lack of the two most basic things we need to survive: food and clean water. That's SEVEN 9/11s every single day, or like having 9/11 about every three and a half hours, every single day without end. Screw the "war on terror". Where's the war on THIS?

That said: America can only do so much. How much of our food aid has been confiscated by 3rd world governments and sold so they can buy more guns and ammo to fight their civil wars? As soon as the aid workers leave, the soldiers, guerrillas, and so on move in and take almost everything we leave behind.

The U.S. once tried to pay for a highway in Afghanistan, years ago after the Russians left. We thought we'd support their economy by giving them the money and letting local contractors build the road. The problem was corruption and embezzlement. By the time each official and manager in the chain of command took his 'cut' from the aid money that was supposed to go for the highway, there was hardly anything left to use to build the road. They made a road that wasn't much more than rocks with a thin layer of sticky oil to give it color, and within two years it was dirt road again. Afghanistan is not the only country that does this, but when America offers to send OUR people in to build a road FOR them, they get all upset and refuse. They get insulted and say "What? You think we can't build a road?" Well, YEAH!
I live in USA and I don't blame USA or others,If others wchich are today poor became rich they would do about the same.My point Is to show you,we put too much energy and resources in direcrtion wchich work against us,and definitely we are capable to change it.I disagree with you ,we doing enough to change it,we have enough knowledge and just by puting pieces in more correct places for them and by putting our resources and energy in more correct way ,we are capable to do much better.Look at budgets of countries,look your spending(put it on paper and try to look what is realy good for from this for what you used your resources).I am saying that protection wchich created the reachest ones are turning against them,this is not way to go.More competition is better for everyone,do you know how much cost us boders,we don't need this damn sheet spending.How this war spends for armies,what kind of investitionis it,we need boders and weapons because we failing to recognize we are the same kind .World in big picture loks like chaos,this is not working for no one.

I see what you're saying. Yes, I think we're going about some things the wrong way. Quite true. There are better ways for us to spend our money. I agree with you there.

I beginning of change has place in our heads,if more of us understand what is really good us we can speed up this change.Looks to me we doesnt have too much choice,we can't run the world way wchich we did for long time,is time to create one country Earth,because with this what I see we running in very bad direction right now ,and if we won't change it dramatically we be out in my opinion.I am trying to prove ,system in wchich we living in todays world doesn't really benefit nobody,cast system is bad ,some doesn't want to be here let him jump from the bridge ,give him drugs for free or good food for wchioch he must pay a lot,you dont' like here ,lets give chance to those who want to be alive,system protections is wrong,we keeping alive people adult people wchich are saying by their actions they dont won't to be alive,from other side we do not suppuort this who want to live ,you made damn choice you must pay for this.What you wil tell me no one knows what is cocaine or heroine who begin to take it,you must set up your mind or you want to live or you want to day.I am saying one more time ,it's ti me to grew up say good bay to mammy and dady.

In your first post you seem to full of humane sympathy for those suffering for lack of food and water, but in this post you seem to be complaining at the same time that modern civilization has taken the rigour out of life. Are people who do not have food and water not suffering because of the rigours of life which civilization is not shielding them from? So which is it, is starvation a good thing for people or a bad thing? Are you sure you understand what you are wishing for when you say that natural selection will make life better for "everyone"? (In truth, in such a natural, primitive state only those lucky enough to be born with the correct genetic characteristics for their environment survive, and even then they need only be good enough to survive, not live a comfortable life free of great hardship. Mortality would be very high, life expectancy very low.) Therefore, under this socially darwinistic view, if a group of humans reproduces in a particular region to a level where there is not enough locally available food and water to sustain them, then that is their hard luck. So make up your mind. Is a life of privation at the mercy of nature better for everyone or worse?

You know what is worst kind of death ,this is dying from hunger,without water you capable to live for about week,without food takes about one month to die in terrible tourture.This is genocide for me because systems wchich are running this world are directly responsible for this genocide,and who is running and keeping alive our dumb creation ,who is in power ,who gave me and you more chances ,who is taking opportunites from this kids ,who.This one who is in charge ,this one is guity for today,is good time to understandt cause and effect,nothing just happen.

My understanding of laws of nature is diffrent then yours.I am trying to explain to you by abonding healthy laws we leaving ourself to space for selfdestructive choices wchich doesn't benefit no one,this what people call humanitarian today (social systems)are turning against us ,we becaming weaker,less active and more ill on average.We doing very destructive choices ,we know they bad for us and we capable to do it (what with time turn against of us)because our sick social system,how many people in this top countries is on drugs,heavy prescription medications,drinking heavly,living very unhealhy way ,reason for it is they know they don't have to pay ,not enough for this what this"grewe up"people are doing.I am saying that by changing system,creating more equal oppurtunities this would push us to became healthier.Is nothing wrong with making mistakes ,but in healthy system if you make a mistake you must pay for this and protect you from repeating the same mistakes over and over,in today world punishment is not equal to mistake (we lowering this by our humanitarizm) and on the end we livng ourself much more space to repeting destructive choices over and over.What is on the end milions on drugs,alcolics, milions dying from shortage of food ,

g69......I am well aware of what happened to the native inhabitants of North and South America.....I however didn't mention it because it occurred before World War 2

SD.....I agree genocide is premeditated.....the deaths in other countries due to starvation and disease...(as horrible as they are).....bear no resemblance to the Holocost or other purges performed by chairman mao, paul pott or stalin......to name a few.

Actually China and Russia have killed more folks with genocide tactics than the Nazis ever dreamed of. I am not saying what the Nazis did shouldn't be over looked, but what Russia and China have done has been overlooked in my opinion.

it probably still is.....war is genocide,when has this planet been free of human conflict,problems created by leaders who's greed and ignorance has killed millions of humans,doesn't matter what their nationality is.

Stalin killed more Jews and others than Hitler ever dreamed of. Also, China's body count isn't too shabby either. If you are looking for a single individual country for numbers for killing off people just b/c of who they are, it's a toss up between Stalin's USSR and China.