The Zamora UFO incident - 1964.

karl 12 · 02-13-2009, 10:18 AM

Police UFO reports are very interesting as they are highly trained in reporting what they see and experience -this is quite a fascinating case from 1964 where Police sergeant Lonnie Zamora witnessed a UFO with 'child like beings wearing coveralls' nearby.

Video:
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=...p;v=xwUY6N3Snb0

Part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6MwRbZ5mp0...feature=related

"The date was April 24, 1964 when Police Sgt. Lonnie Zamora was in pursuit of a vehicle on the outskirts of the small town of Socorro, New Mexico. Zamora broke off the chase when he heard a loud roar and flame in the sky coming from a nearby area in which he knew a dynamite shack was located. As he slowly drove along the narrow gravel road leading to the shack, at a distance of 800 feet he saw a shiny object, what he thought might be an overturned car in the arroyo running beside the road. He also saw what looked like two children or small adults in coveralls close to the vehicle. He noticed that one of them seemed startled and jumped when he saw Zamora’s car approaching.

As he got out of his car, Zamora heard two or three loud metallic sounding thumps. He walked toward the arroyo, he saw an aluminum white, egg-shaped object sitting atop four legs. On the side of the object was what appeared to be a red insignia".

Just then, he heard a loud roaring sound come from the object as a bluish orange flame, funnel-shaped and four times wider at the bottom than the top, shot out from underneath it. Thinking it was about to explode, he ran to the opposite side of the road. He then heard a whirring noise as the object slowly rose 10 to 15 feet. Suddenly the flame and sound both stopped, and the object silently glided away parallel to the ground, clearing the top of the 8-foot dynamite shack.

Sgt. Zamora immediately got back in his car and called the dispatcher. He then drew a picture of the craft he had just witnessed while still fresh in his memory:

Sgt. Sam Chavez heard him over the radio and quickly arrived at Zamora’s location, 3 minutes after the object had flown off in the distance. The two of them climbed down the embankment and found burning vegetation, four impressions in the ground, and small footprints. There were also 3 circular indentations nearby in the sandy soil, such as would be left if someone pressed the top of a jar to the ground.

http://tinwiki.org/wiki/Soccoro,_New_Mexic..._the_third_kind

The below paragraph appeared in the formerly classified CIA publication entitled "Studies in Intelligence" from the fall of 1966-it was written by Hector Quintanilla, Jr., the former head of the Air Force's Project Bluebook:

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"There is no doubt that Lonnie Zamora saw an object which left quite an impression on him. There is also no question about Zamora"s reliability. He is a serious police officer, a pillar of his church, and a man well versed in recognizing airborne vehicles in his area. He is puzzled by what he saw, and frankly, so are we. This is the best-documented case on record, and still we have been unable, in spite of thorough investigation, to find the vehicle or other stimulus that scared Zamora to the point of panic."

Debunkers debunked:
http://www.nicap.org/zamora6.htm

Other links:
http://www.cufon.org/contributors/chrisl/socorro.htm
http://www.ufocasebook.com/Zamora.html

Other police reports:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/Cas...section=Police
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics...-six-years.html
http://policeufo.com/AuWitsC.html

SOUL-DRIFTER · 02-13-2009, 08:27 PM

Yes, Karl, a very good classic case. I recall first reading of that case back in '68' or '70'. A good case all around with the exception that he never has able to take any photographs.

bart5050 · 02-13-2009, 09:18 PM

This one is quite believable, even to the physics of it. You might need a rocket engine to get a ship off the ground. But a highly effecient super conductinng magnet can effortlessly mantain its height.

It is easily demonstrated that a nitrogen cooled magnet will mantain a fixed position in a magnetic field. Until it warms up again. When moved it will return to the position it was cooled in and float in the aor there. The same concept as maglev trains. The earths magnetic field are the tracks.

karl 12 · 03-17-2009, 07:33 AM

Thanks for the replies-interesting stuff

Here's some extensive links and info on the incident from NICAP:
http://www.nicap.org/zamoradir.htm
Cheers.

karl 12 · 04-08-2009, 08:42 AM

1964--The Landing at Socorro, New Mexico

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On the afternoon of April 24, 1964, cruising City Patrolman Lonnie Zamora reported watching a strange craft descend, flames coming from its underside. A few minutes later he saw it parked on the desert floor, with two small, white-suited beings close by. He said the craft was light colored like aluminum, was shaped like an egg standing on end, and had a completely unfamiliar red insignia on its side.

It soon took off with a roar and a rush of flame, rose a few yards, then went completely silent and slowly flew off across the mountains. With a police sergeant who had responded to his radioed call for assistance, he inspected the landing site, noting charred rocks, scorched brush and impressions in the ground where, Zamora said, the spindly landing gear had sat. The two small individuals were last seen prior to the object's takeoff.

An investigation within a few hours by an Army officer from White Sands Missile Range and an FBI agent produced a detailed description of the event and strong support for Zamora's reliability as a witness. The Air Force's top UFO consultant, astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek of Northwestern University, arrived two days later to measure and photograph the landing site. It was one of the most thoroughly and speedily investigated UFO cases on record.

After hemming and hawing for several weeks, the Air Force realized it had no alternative but to conclude that what Patrolman Zamora said he saw--an egg-shaped craft and two small individuals--could not be explained in any conventional way. That is how the report remains in the permanent files of Project Blue Book, available for viewing on microfilm in the National Archives II, College Park, Maryland.

In light of just this one case, it is hard to understand how the Air Force can continue to insist that no unexplained UFO report constitutes evidence of advanced technology.

http://www.freedomofinfo.org/evidence/the_strange.html

karl 12 · 04-13-2009, 04:59 PM

Lonnie Zamora and his colleagues talk about the sighting at Socorro in 1964:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7495041330105572312

karl 12 · 04-15-2009, 01:11 PM

Virtualy identical case (on the same date) from Newark Valley,New York:

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The 1964 UFO Landing / Occupant Case (Gary Wilcox)

At about 10 a.m., on April 24, 1964, a 27-year-old farmer named Gary Wilcox was out in one of the fields of his 300-acre farm spreading manure at Newark Valley, New York, when he noticed something unusual over by the edge of the woods. Curious, he drove his tractor over for a closer look.
He initially suspected that it was perhaps a fuel tank or something from a plane. As he walked up to it he could tell it was slightly off the ground, but wasn’t sure how it was suspended there, whether on some sort of legs or whatever. He described it as oblong shaped, resembling an egg, and that it was approximately 20 feet long, 4 feet high, and 15 or 16 feet wide.

He stated that he thumped it, even kicked it.

He determined that it was definitely metallic, with an aluminum color. The surface was smooth, with no rivets or seams visible, and when he touched it he detected no vibration, there was no sound, nor was there any sensation of heat or anything else out of the ordinary. Then two men, both about 4 foot tall, came out from underneath it, and they had what resembled a metal tray about a foot square that was filled with alfalfa, roots, soil, leaves and brush. The men were dressed in some sort of white or metallic suits. No part of their body was showing.

Wilcox said that for the first few minutes he didn’t say much of anything. He was frightened, and he suspected that someone was playing a trick on him. When asked what the beings first said to him, Wilcox stated that one of the beings seemingly told him “Don’t be alarmed, we have spoken to people before.”

In a prepared statement Wilcox recalled, “Their voices did not sound like a voice I could describe. I could understand what was said but cannot tell whether they were speaking English or not.” Then they proceeded to ask him about what he was doing, asking for him to explain about the tractor, manure spreader, and manure itself. He claimed that it turned out that they were very interested in organic substances as Mars (where they allegedly claimed to be from) was rocky and not fit for growing anything.

Wilcox said he answered their questions for two hours. During that time he learned that they had been watching him for sometime.

Wilcox said he asked the beings if he could go with them. They turned down his request, stating that their atmosphere would be too thin. They added that they avoided congested areas on earth because of automobile fumes, as it seemingly interfered with the performance of their vehicles. They preferred operating in areas where the air was clean.

Meanwhile, the strange men, who had approached within a few feet of Wilcox, seemed interested in farming practices, and when Wilcox mentioned how he used fertilizer, they wanted to know about it. He offered to get them a bag of fertilizer to take with them, but they did not want to wait around for him to do so.

Soon the men got back into their craft which quietly rose into the air with a noise he described as comparable to a car motor idling. The UFO slowly glided off and then just disappeared from sight to the north, at an estimated distance of about 150 feet.

Later that afternoon, Wilcox took a 75 pound bag of fertilizer and left it near a small tree near where the UFO had landed. When he checked the next morning he found the bag of fertilizer was gone.

http://www.ufocasebook.com/wilcox1964.html

karl 12 · 05-12-2009, 12:40 PM

Interesting FBI Communications Section teletype discussing a close sighting of a UFO taking off from the desert floor, observed from about 100 feet away and at an elevation of 25 feet above the scene.

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REFERENCES:
Title: UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT, SOCORRO, N.M.
To: DIRECTOR, FBI (J. Edgar Hoover)
Author: SAC (Special Agent In Charge), ALBUQUERQUE 62-NEW
Date: April 24, 1964
Length: 2 pages
Classification: None noted, but marked URGENT

THE DOCUMENT:

http://www.ufologie.net/indexe.htm

Roswell13 · 05-12-2009, 12:50 PM

Hey, I know about this case, I remember seeing an Unsolved Mysterys show about it, then the UFO Hunters on the History Channel invetigated the case. I have the story in my files. I believe Zamora, he is a credible person. :

Castle-Bravo354 · 05-12-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SOUL-DRIFTER

A good case all around with the exception that he never has able to take any photographs.

SD....I always liked this case as well.....he was very detailed and while he didn't have any pictures....his drawings were fairly detailed. I find him quite credible.