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    Quote Originally Posted by $ORCEROU$ View Post
    First you patronize, then you admit you haven't a clue about what you're talking about. You are NOT QUALIFIED. In fact, I would have to say at this juncture, you are DISQUALIFIED.

    Sorry, your "investment of a lifetime" has not convinced me to hand over my pocket change, or my sanity for that matter.

    And FYI yes I am a professor of sound design at Columbia University.
    If you are a professor then where is your professional opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesgtmoore View Post
    If you are a professor then where is your professional opinion?
    I'm actually not a professor, but see how easy it is to put erroneous information on the internet?

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    What is your line of work, $ORCEROU$?

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    That's not relevant to this discussion, now is it?

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    Before I say good bye I would like you all to know that it's been an interesting, challenging and disappointing experience being here. If anyone can reproduce the same spectrogram as the beamship sound sample in this thread then feel free to contact me or Michael with the news.

    Enjoy your lights in the sky.

    Good bye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by $ORCEROU$ View Post
    First you patronize, then you admit you haven't a clue about what you're talking about. You are NOT QUALIFIED. In fact, I would have to say at this juncture, you are DISQUALIFIED.

    Sorry, your "investment of a lifetime" has not convinced me to hand over my pocket change, or my sanity for that matter.

    And FYI yes I am a professor of sound design at Columbia University.

    Ouch. Thanks Soc for participating in the discussions. Your assistance is much appreciated by me and I am sure others. I defer to Roe and Xeno's coments..

    From my perspective while I appreciate Mr. Moore is trying to provide evidence with due respect to him I hope he can understand why what he has provided is being criticized and why it does not provide objective evidence, just subjective, self serving claims.

    I think Mr. Moore continues to evidence a basic misunderstanding of just what objective corroborated evidence is. I am not sure at this point if its an intetionally manipulative response technique or Mr. Moore just is so taken by the dogma or script he has been asked to repeat he is blinded as to its inherent limitations.

    I think you provide example of when someone's particular professional expertise could have become important to assist us all when considering the evidence.. but it can be dangerous if we do not know in fact who you are, what kind of expertise you really have, and just what it is you are being asked to measure.

    In the above context of response I would also add being asked to reproduce a sound would not prove it comes from a beam ship just that it sounds the same as the original noise provided.

    The fact is it remains clear there is no evidence to attach the sound provided by Mr. Moore to any beam ship. He is asking us to take him at his word the sound is what he claims it is precisely because he has no way to connect it to any alleged beam ship.

    Reproducing noise does not prove it comes from a beam ship. Common sense would tell anyone that.

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    ^^^ Hi Mika, I wanted to clarify that I am NOT a professor... I had put that in there to prove a point - anyone can claim to be an "expert" and put erroneous information out on the internet.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesgtmoore View Post
    Before I say good bye I would like you all to know that it's been an interesting, challenging and disappointing experience being here. If anyone can reproduce the same spectrogram as the beamship sound sample in this thread then feel free to contact me or Michael with the news.

    Enjoy your lights in the sky.

    Good bye.




    Can't say the dramatic departure and attempt at guilt transference on the way out is unexpected.

    Its been my experience when people say they are disappointed by me for not following them that I do this, this and this....

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    Quote Originally Posted by $ORCEROU$ View Post
    ^^^ Hi Mika, I wanted to clarify that I am NOT a professor... I had put that in there to prove a point - anyone can claim to be an "expert" and put erroneous information out on the internet.

    Thanks!
    Yah thanks. I edited my answer to make it clearer why I was agreeing with what you did. I appreciated the point you were making.


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