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    Quote Originally Posted by rorechof
    Drifter posts: What about the possibility that some may have enemies that down their crafts that also come and go from Earth. Point is there are other explanations...
    what satellite could crash and not get damage or debri?
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    IF the object was laying on the ground how would an eyewitness be able to see the side that was dug into the Earth... They couldn't...
    Many types of airdropped items survive quite well when they hit the Earth and we have absolutely NO IDEA how fast the object was moving when it hit the ground.

    The possibility that Alien Enemies were fighting in the skies over Kecksburg clearly falls under this post of yours SD: "...an incident where alternative ideas have no supporting evidence, witnesses or otherwise, is following a wrong path..."

    I'm not telling you what to believe, I'm just throwing my logic and reasoning at the evidence I have to work with.

    Other than that, yeah, the Kecksburg object could be the casualty of an interstellar war being fought on and around Earth because... It's Possible... :spaceshipfire: :shipparty:

    Shoot... It could even be a time-dilating inter-dimensional Human transport pod traveling from future-past which got caught up in a nasty Bermuda Triangle BlackHole Vortex...

    Anything's Possible until proven otherwise... ~rore
    Well have to agree to disagree.
    It would be nice if this 45 year old incident could have all the documents about it declassified. Then there would be little to debate.
    I think it would be the Army or possibly Airforce that has them.
    The question is why still the secrecy if it wasn't an ET vessel of some kind? If it was some super secret sat. that crashed as you believe Rore, what about it could be so high-tech still? The latest KH -11 has a resolution of 5cm and it has been rumored some go beyond that.
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    Drifter posts: If it was some super secret sat. that crashed as you believe Rore, what about it could be so high-tech still?
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    It's not a 'belief' SD. It's just an idea or thought of mine.

    And just maybe the 'cover-up' wasn't so much about the spysat's technology as it was about 'something else'?

    Like the spy sat was equipped with a nuclear power plant or Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator (RTG) ...?
    ~A Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator is an electrical generating system that uses Plutonium-238 as a heat source and has been used in satellites since at least 1961.
    How many more sats 'up there' were/are powered with small nuclear reactors or RTG's?

    How many Nations of the World; How many Citizens of the World would be comfortable with knowing the Soviets and Americans, in their rush to spy on one another, were seeding near-earth orbit with spy-sats that, not only fall out of the sky but are, "Equipped with Nuclear Reactors or Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators to power their electronics"?

    I really don't want to get into the 'motivations' or the 'politics' behind the cover-up however, to put it in a nutshell, "WE won't tell if YOU don't tell and NO, you are not getting your sat back jack..."

    "The U.S. only once tested a nuclear reactor like the Soviet Topaz unit [so 'they' say~rore] .
    It was in 1965.
    The reactor lasted 43 days, although the satellite on which it was installed is still in orbit as part of space junk.

    "Russia has launched about 40 spacecraft with nuclear plants aboard.
    Most of them were used for spying purposes and, once activated, stayed in low near-Earth orbits for several months on end." More@ http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Nuclear_..._Space_999.html

    Or maybe it was something mundane, like in the excerpt below. DENY EVERYTHING if you want to keep COVERT OPS...COVERT
    'Covert OPS', in the Intelligence Community i.e. NSA, means secret operations that DO NOT Exist. The paper trail authorizing the OPS is either appropriately blacked out or destroyed. ~rore

    "A recently declassified government history of secrecy and American military launch operations reveals that when Gambit was first being discussed in the senior levels of the US government, presidential science advisory George Kistiakowsky expressed his concern about the military’s ability to operate a covert program.
    The Air Force conducted top secret research and operations, but “covert” was a different category entirely.
    It meant that even the existence of the program was kept secret.
    The Air Force did not have existing rules, regulations and procedures that allowed this. [But the CIA did]

    Air Force Under Secretary Joseph Charyk strongly argued that Gambit should be developed by the Air Force. He stated that he could prove that the Air Force could develop a covert satellite.
    In the summer of 1960 Charyk and Colonel John L. Martin, Jr. invented a new security strategy called “Raincoat” that, like a flasher’s overcoat, would be used to shield the naughty bits from unwanted exposure—in this case, covert development of a new reconnaissance satellite."
    Much more @ http://www.thespacereview.com/article/750/1
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    Surely is no secret to other world governments that have any real worldly impact. They may not know everything, but enough to get the idea.
    Still, why not at least provide documents that they were there to recover a downed sat. and leave it at that? Because they would be caught in a lie?
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    Drifter posts: Still, why not at least provide documents that they were there to recover a downed sat.
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    Because it was a Covert Operation and never existed?
    IF it didn't exist, then there wouldn't be any documents detailing what they were really doing in Kecksburg. ~rore
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    So we may never find out what really happened there.
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