Thread: NASA: No records found on 1965 Pa. UFO sighting

I would suspect that NASA has no records of this event.

It would fall under the jurisdiction of the mlitary, not NASA.

NASA has a mission statement of the exploration of space.
Not the investigation of UFO's.

Even if NASA supplied innformation to or cooperated with the military on projects, the military would have custody of that information.

The military is exempt from environmental laws and FOI requests.
They may give information as a courtesy, or not.

I tend to agree with you Bart. If NASA had any involvement in this case any and all information would have been handed over to the military. I think they are barking up the wrong tree on this one.

Originally Posted by The Hazard

I tend to agree with you Bart. If NASA had any involvement in this case any and all information would have been handed over to the military. I think they are barking up the wrong tree on this one.

While that is partly true your correct.

NASA would indeed be involved as the Keckburg Incident was supposedly a Russian/Soviet Craft, and if so on board it would show how their ballistic missile technology worked and in fact NASA would want to be on it as they would use this captured technology for space rockets.

Don't forget NASA was at the time a CIVILIAN organisation yet shared experiments etc..with the Military. If the Military had hold of this then NASA would also benefit, but to say they had no records, is probably not entirely correct, it is in the wording, the wording is if NASA had any records for a UFO event (Unidentified Object-just left out the Flying part), they say no and that is technically correct, if the question was asked though did any of your NASA employees go to Kecksburg with the military-where records would be in military hands then yes NASA has no record of this event as such, but that is a coy answer, and since 1996 NASA has come under National A Security ion the form of Military contractors now run NASA not civilians with military contracts!!

It is a strange story this one, on the one hand you have brothers arguing for 40 years with each other where they don't talk over this incident, half the town was a sleep and didn't hear or see anything the other half did.

I do agree with you when you say it is a strange story and that it has divided families and the town. As for the rest of it well lawyers these days can claim and or deny anything based on a single word.

For my money, what crashed in Kecksburg was a KH-8 Recon-Sat prototype or a Soviet equivalent, being tested for its ability "...to lower its orbit and “swoop” in over a target.

The first recorded 'mission launch' date of the KH-8 is July 29, 1966 buuut...lol This craft was in the 'research, development, testing' phase well before it was given the Green Light to be put into service.
Check it out...

"The KH-8 was the highest resolution reconnaissance satellite ever built.
Even today, it apparently holds the record for the best reconnaissance photographs returned from orbit by any spacecraft, a combination of both a powerful camera and...
the ability to dramatically lower its orbit, to “swoop” in over a target at altitudes of apparently only 70 nautical miles (130 kilometers).

"The KH-8 could apparently see objects on the ground as small as a baseball and had the ability to photograph people with enough resolution to see their arms and legs. Later satellites had bigger mirrors, but flew at higher altitudes and could not return pictures as good."
More @ http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1283/1

KH-8 reconnaissance satellite... It kinda has that 'acorn' look imho...

(credit: NRO)

Apparently, more than one Top Secret USA Sat Mission has gone awry... ~rore

Farmers in Venezuela recovered part of a classified American reconnaissance satellite in 1964. (credit: NRO)

I wouldn't call that acorn looking without a lot of imagination.

The other concern is how a satellite crashing to earth would even remain in one piece let alone look even remotely to what it did before it hit the ground.
We must also consider witness testamonies as well.

It was stated by witnesses that people with a NASA emblem on their uniforms were there along with the military.

Drifter posts: The other concern is how a satellite crashing to earth would even remain in one piece let alone look even remotely to what it did before it hit the ground.
I wouldn't call that acorn looking without a lot of imagination.
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I can easily see the 'acorn shape' SD and I'm not using a lot of imagination either.
Fatt-ish moving toward the top and then tapering moving to the bottom.
Plus, the KH-8 does come with a lid, but the image I found of that had the top off.

These sats were built with the ability to maneuver SD. They were designed to change altitude, change direction, move left, right and 'swoop' toward Earth.
They weren't just metal spheres expected to maintain a constant and stable orbit.

They were also designed with deployable parachutes which would significantly lower their airspeed before impact even if the chute burned up seconds after deployment.
Also, we know the object impacted at a significant angle, hitting the tops of a couple of trees which would further slow it down before it hit, what looked like, relatively soft earth. I saw some investigators digging around the crash site and it didn't seem they were having any problem digging into the ground.

One of the reasons I posted that pic of a crashed sat is to illustrate that sats falling out of the sky are not necessarily found in a zillion pieces. That's a pretty hefty chunk a sat those guys found.

Anyway, the above diatribe is part of the 'evidence' leading me to think it was a Top Secret Sat that crashed in Kecksburg; Ours or Theirs... ~rore

OK, but to believe it was a simple downed satellite pretty much ignores most witness testimony doesn't it? And in my book...that is sweeping it under the rug.

Drifter posts: pretty much ignores most witness testimony
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Actually, it was the testimonies that got me to wondering: Why did some folks talk about it openly and others didn't?

Could it be that all of the witnesses were asked by the US Govt. to keep quiet about the incident?
That the crash was a National Security issue...

And some folks said, "Sure, my lips are sealed!" and others said "This is America! I'll say what I like!".
Maybe that's why some Kecksburg folks are angry at other Kecksburg folks, the ones who did blab...

Truth to tell SD, because of my background, if I witnessed that crash and I was told it was a National Security Issue, the US Govt. wouldn't have to ask me to keep quiet.

And I am not implying at all that it was a "simple downed satellite".
I think I made it clear that the KH-8 or a Soviet equivalent sat is anything but a simple recon sat...? ~rore