Thread: Strange But True Facts about New Mexico: Missing Children

Originally Posted by Norio

Here are two strange but true facts about New Mexico:


Fact #2:

In 1967, the U.S. government exploded an atomic bomb a mile and a half deep underground, only 21 miles south of Dulce, New Mexico.
The reason: to help ease the flow of natural gas in that region.
My question: Was that the only reason?

-from Norio Hayakawa
http://www.myspace.com/noriohayakawa

I didnt know that. Perhaps the real reason was to expediate the excavation of the underground base.

Originally Posted by Norio

Here are two strange but true facts about New Mexico:

Fact #1:

In 1992, the Albuquerque Journal (the largest daily newspaper in New Mexico) ran a story headlined: "Why New Mexico Has More Missing Chilren Per Population Than Any Other State Remains A Mystery".
I remember reading that article.
My question has always been: "Where did those children go?" To Dulce?

Fact #2:

In 1967, the U.S. government exploded an atomic bomb a mile and a half deep underground, only 21 miles south of Dulce, New Mexico.
The reason: to help ease the flow of natural gas in that region.
My question: Was that the only reason?

-from Norio Hayakawa
http://www.myspace.com/noriohayakawa

What exactly are you proposing?

Norio, I see that you still have not addressed the inaccuracies you made in this story: UFO photographed near F-14 crash site in 1987?

Considering your article implies that the F-14 was shot down by a UFO, don't you feel any obligation to present the facts, given you are a 'personality' within the field of ufology?

You deserve no credibility as a serious UFO researcher untill you amend or retract the story. Especially as the UFO is most likely a water tower.

Originally Posted by Norio

Here are two strange but true facts about New Mexico:

Facts can be proven

Prove that the newspaper article exists or the only fact is that you remember reading it. Given your track record so far your word means nothing.

Your attempted Argument from authority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is worthless.

My question has always been: "Where did those children go?" To Dulce?

Was that the only reason?

Do you think these are Loaded questions or Suggestive questions

I did some perliminary checking and New Mexico presently lists 25 missing children with a total state population of merely 2 million. By contrast Texas lists 196 missing children...but have a total population of over 23 million people!

That does not answer whether or not they are abducted to work in an underground base(I doubt it...even if there is such a base), it is still interesting.

Originally Posted by Norio

Here are two strange but true facts about New Mexico:

Fact #1:
I
n 1992, the Albuquerque Journal (the largest daily newspaper in New Mexico) ran a story headlined: "Why New Mexico Has More Missing Chilren Per Population Than Any Other State Remains A Mystery".
I remember reading that article.
My question has always been: "Where did those children go?" To Dulce?

So what your saying is the kids were kidnapped and taken to the dulce underground facility and used for experimentation and food.

Do you think that's what happened to these people?

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children

Did you ever see this video, Norio?



That's pretty sick, isn't it.

I like it.

I found this website that backs up your claim, it's by James Casbolt, former MI6 agent but he was saying it back on July 4, 2006.

There is a massive number of missing children in Britain, America and other places connected to these underground bases. The figure in Britain seems to be at least twenty thousand children disappear without a trace every year. In a 1995 classified CIA, DIA (defense intelligence agency) and FBI report, it stated that one hundred thousand children and one million adults disappear and are never found in the US every year.

You may ask yourself how is this being covered up. As was mentioned at the beginning of the article, the same group working with the greys and reptilians which is MI6, CIA and the MIEC, own and control the mainstream media.

In 2001 Scotland Yard police revealed that it had been unable to find three hundred black boys aged between four to seven that disappeared from London in a three-month period. The three hundred boys were reported missing between July and September in 2001.

Journalist Yinka Sunmonu an expert in missing children told the BBC’s Today program “Children are here one day and gone the next”.

In 1989 in Westchester, New York which was the site of numerous UFO overflights and reports of human abductions at that time. Over three thousand missing children reports surfaced. After extensive investigation by local police departments the children were not found at red light districts or centers for run a ways. Researchers and law enforcement officials were baffled.

There is also the CIA ‘finders case’. This involved negative factions of the CIA directly involved in child kidnapping. This was revealed in a 1987 US customs report. Customs and police raided a Washington DC warehouse which was used by the CIA. There they found a set of instructions broadcast via a computer network which advised the CIA to move a huge amount of kidnapped children that were originally being held at the warehouse (customs and police found large amount of nappies and other things there) and to keep them moving across jurisdictions.

There were instructions on impregnation of female teenagers and also instructions on how to avoid police detection. The destination for the children in the instructions was New Mexico.

The Albuquerque journal ran an article entitled ’ Why New Mexico has so many more missing children than comparable states remains a mystery’.

Much of this activity is centered around New Mexico where the Dulce underground facility is.

One male survivor of the MI6/CIA mind control project Monarch described in ’The illuminati formula’ by Fritz Springmeir, the china lake naval base at Ridgecrest in the California desert. This anonymous man says batches of children numbering one, two and three thousand were kept in cages piled up to the ceiling of large hangers. He says these cages are called ’woodpecker grids’.

These are electrified and the children were tortured with electric shocks.

Children are today still being transported to china lake naval base by train, car and air. One of the main delivery routes for children into China Lake is by plane from the Santa Rosa airstrip near Bohemian grove. The Santa Rosa airstrip is supposed to be closed, yet planes take off from there every night and do not put there lights on until they are hundreds of feet in the air.

The Nazi geneticist and mind control scientist Joseph Mengela ‘The angel of death’ from the Auschwitz concentration camp was brought to America after the war by MI6 and the OSS (which became the CIA) in project paperclip. Many other leading Nazi mind control experts, rocket scientists and geneticists were also brought to America and Britain after the war.

Joseph Mengela stayed at the China Lake base and the Tavistock Institute in London.

China Lake naval base is in the same as Lancaster, California. It was in Lancaster the mass graves of mutilated children were discovered.

By the sheer amount of evidence the only conclusion I can come to is that certain sections of the US and British government have sold us and our children out to malevolent ET’s in backdoor treaties. The situation is truly grim. Come on people, time to wake up! The new world order and UN one world government is this rigid control structure to clamp the people of the world into a totalitarian vice so they won’t have to tell us about the aliens.

Underground Bases, Missing Children, Extra-Terrestrials - What You Need To Know For Your Future

Originally Posted by Norio

My question has always been: "Where did those children go?" To Dulce?

People like you disgust me, how can you possibly justify trying to make money from associating your wild and unfounded claims with the tragedy and pain of missing children. You are a parasite.

Norio Hayakawa is a resident of Rio Rancho who believes that wild rumors may not always bring a bad name to a community or hurt it. Sometimes they bring curiosity seekers, and even tourism may flourish. Take, for example, the city of Roswell. "Roswell has raked in quite a lot of tourist dollars all these years, despite the lack of any tangible, solid, irrefutable evidence that an extraterrestrial spacecraft crashed in the desert outside of the city in July of 1947," Hayakawa noted.

An Unusual Conference in Dulce, New Mexico

It's disrespectful to the families who have have lost their children.

It's disrespectful to the memories of the missing.

The problem of missing children is complex and multifaceted. Children may become missing due to abduction by nonfamily members or abduction by family members. Children may be missing as a result of running away from home.

Do you know that among abducted children who are murdered, in 74 percent of the cases the victims are dead within three hours of their abduction. look it up, researcher.

The best national estimates for the number of missing children are found in the National Incidence Studies of Missing, Abducted, Runaway, and Thrownaway Children (NISMART-2), released in October 2002. According to NISMART-2, an estimated

* 800,000 children younger than 18 are missing each year, or an average of 2,000 children reported missing each day.
* 200,000 children were were abducted by family members.
* 58,000 children were abducted by nonfamily members, and
* 115 children were the victims of “stereotypical” kidnapping. These crimes involve someone the child does not know, or knows only slightly, who holds the child overnight, transports the child 50 miles or more, kills the child, demands ransom, or intends to keep the child permanently.

You know Dulce isn't all that far from a place called Ciudad Juarez, it's on the Mexican border. 7hrs by car.

A Mexican girl who was held captive by human traffickers and later managed to escape tells Channel 4 News how she witnessed babies and children being "sold to order" to American citizens.
Picture of missing girl, believed kidnapped, in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico.

The Department of Homeland Security in Washington DC says the girl, known only as Maria, had "significant information" and possessed a "remarkable memory" of her experiences inside the gang.

In a chilling interview with Channel 4 News the teenager tells of a cross-border trade in babies and young children, where Mexican and US gangs worked together to supply a demand in the United States.

Her interview with the programme has prompted US authorities to launch a criminal investigation and in late December agents flew the teenager to the United States for a full interview after Channel 4 News alerted authorities.

Maria was 16-years-old when she was lured into the gang by a young man on the streets of the deadly Mexican border town of Ciudad Juarez.

Since the 1990s thousands of women have disappeared from the town, and hundreds of bodies bearing signs of rape and sexual mutilation were dumped on waste ground in the city.

Thousands more have never returned.

Despite international coverage of the story including a film starring Jennifer Lopez, the disappearances continue.

In 2009, 55 teenage girls vanished in the town, which has been gripped by violence as two drug cartels fight a lethal turf war for cocaine smuggling routes to America.

Whilst investigating the fate of the missing girls Channel 4 News correspondent Nick Martin and producer Guillermo Galdos discovered Maria and carried out the interview whilst she was in hiding.

Few girls return after going missing and Maria's interview sheds light on the fate of so many in her position.

She said she had been given presents and promised a job in an office by the gang member but was instead drugged and raped and sold to men. She explained what the gang did to one girl who tried to escape.

"They took a gallon of gasoline and started pouring it over her," said Maria.

"One of the men told me 'if you don't do as I say I will do the same to you'. I wanted to look away - but they didn't let me.

"Even though the girl was on fire they kept hitting her. They were laughing as if they were enjoying what they were doing.

"They burnt her alive."

Maria, which is not her real name, said the gang held young women in a house on the Mexican border until they were sold to the US as sex slaves. But she said they also dealt in children and told of on one occasion when the gang was contacted by a woman in New York.

"She called and was very angry. She said she needed a seven-year-old girl and a nine-year-old boy - and she needed them in three days."

Maria told Special Agents that the gang would prowl the streets of poor areas and look for children.

"They stole the children," she said. "One of the gang members took a six-year-old kid. I had to look after him for three hours. He told me he wanted to see his mummy.

"Then I started crying, I said: "I don't think you're ever going to see your mummy again." All he kept saying was I want to see my mummy."

US officials have a keen interest in this case. As a result of the interview US officials have begun investigating along with the Mexican authorities.

Maria, who managed to escape after a gang member left her alone in a house, says children were often around. But not for long.

"I saw the Americans taking kids," she said. "A four-year-old and another boy, he barely walked, he was only about two years old. They took them to New York."

The US State Department estimates that more than 20,000 young women and children are trafficked across the border from Mexico each year. But conviction rates remain low.

Mexico's Attorney General Arturo Chavez has been accused of not doing enough to bring human traffickers to justice but insisted it was an issue the country was "definitely focussing on."

Maria has been told that she could have to give evidence against the gang of they are caught. It is something she says she is determined to do.

"Women are sold, they are abducted, bought and even killed by these men. If these men are ever found, jail won't be enough to make them pay for the way they've made us feel."

Mexico missing children - exclusive report - Channel 4 News

You make me sick, Norio.

Sounds to me that we should declare war on this and send in the military if needed. To hell with over seas issues..we have more important ones here!!

Originally Posted by LO-kee

The figure in Britain seems to be at least twenty thousand children disappear without a trace every year.

Underground Bases, Missing Children, Extra-Terrestrials - What You Need To Know For Your Future

What a complete crock of shit, i would say who ever wrote that needs a kick in the nuts or doesn't have a clue about the UK, its a small country if twenty thousand children disappeared without trace every year i think people would start to notice, i mean it wouldn't be long before there wasn't anyone left....

The Police National Missing Persons Bureau the closest the UK has to a national database, has 1,418 "open cases" of children missing since records began. Of these, some 509 new cases were reported between 2002 and 2005. This increased to 639 in the three years since....Source

I don't know about other countries, but in Australia, if one kid goes missing, the media goes nuts. If 20k disappeared every year that would make 56 children missing a day!