Thread: Aliens Do Visit Earth

Originally Posted by Bill100

Have you found any "rational" explanation for Travis Walton case?

I just read a few pages of it. That sounded like a made up story to me. It was way too... sensational.

Originally Posted by Crazee

I just read a few pages of it. That sounded like a made up story to me. It was way too... sensational.

Dude they took a lie detector test, walton appeared 9 or 7 days later in the middle of know where.

Thanks SD these are the sorts of reports I find interesting, more so than YouTube vidios.

Originally Posted by bill.zen

The supposed trace evidence has never been proven to be extraterrestrial in origin. And as far as right angle flight. There are craft being developed as we speak that can do amazing maneuvers. Just because something is not known to the general public does not make it extraterrestrial.

Back to the "trace evidence". As I said there is no evidence it is of extraterrestrial origin. I read an excellent article a while back that I went back and looked for. I paste some of it here for you to read:



Anyway, as I stated in an earlier thread. I am not here to cause argument or disruption. But it seems that some of the posts after mine have been trying to egg on an argument type situation by their negative nature. I'm sorry people feel this way. I have been called "close minded" by some here. But there is a fallacy to your argument that I am so. Has anyone here looked at the evidence against the so-called ufo invasion? If you haven't with an open mind then I would say that you may be as close minded as you try to make me out to be. It might be fun to come home at the end of the day from a hard days work and throw around tales of "ufo abduction". But in the end, we need to come to terms with this and realize that there are no visitations and that this is all just a spot of fun on many peoples parts.

As with any ridicules skeptic you pick and choose certain parts of the evidence while ignoring the rest. The trace evidence is NOT limited to rings. Shows what little you know and that you do not take the time to research. Then make comments like "Has anyone here looked at the evidence against the so-called ufo invasion? "
Then make proclamations ..."are no visitations...that this is all just a spot of fun on many peoples parts." It really demonstrates to me and others just how ignorant of the subject you are or you are just trying to see if you can get people stirred up. Like I said believe what you want. You can also believe the world is still flat or than man never went to the moon. Those would be just as silly, but what ever.
Any sane person that looks at all the evidence and has spoken to people(witnesses) at the very least should consider the visitation idea, as very possible. To say it just plain doesn't and never happened is just plain nutty.

Originally Posted by Bill100

Have you found any "rational" explanation for Travis Walton case?

Bill, gotta point out, the lack of a rational explanation currently known, doesn't mean that explanation x is automatically correct...
It's like, I could throw out that how does he know they were aliens, and not inter-dimensional travellers.
A lack of evidence for something does not automatically mean it's incorrect, unless there is evidence in the opposite direction.

Originally Posted by Achillesdude

Dude they took a lie detector test, walton appeared 9 or 7 days later in the middle of know where.

*whistles slowly*

But yeah, I don't really know enough about the case to make much comment on it, except about the polygraphs. I'll read up more details when I can. =)

I simply do not know what is true in this area, and what pisses me off is people claiming with absolute certainty that they KNOW what is correct.
I see it on both ends of the debate too.
Believers proudly touting that they 100% believe in visitation, and insulting those who don't. No leeway to accept actual logical explanations, or anything.
And those who think all the believers have some sort of mental deficiency... Those who constantly try to shove square pegs into round holes in an attempt to explain some things which, given the current information, cant be explained.
All of them irritate me.
Every one of them.
It turns this subject into a flame war.

Crazed believers giving not only UFOlogy a bad name, but every site they plague. Places like YouTube serve as breeding pits for them...
Or, pseudo-sceptics, who make every believer weary of science, causing a big gap in the basic knowledge of a lot of areas of it... Causing even more conspiracies due to ignorance.
AAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGG!

There are quite a few logical and scientific reasons why alien visitation is near impossible.
And there are some reports which seem to back up the idea that visitation does occur.
There.

Now that's out.
Lets all get along. =)

Originally Posted by Xeno

Bill, gotta point out, the lack of a rational explanation currently known, doesn't mean that explanation x is automatically correct...
It's like, I could throw out that how does he know they were aliens, and not inter-dimensional travellers.

A lack of evidence for something does not automatically mean it's incorrect, unless there is evidence in the opposite direction.


*whistles slowly*

But yeah, I don't really know enough about the case to make much comment on it, except about the polygraphs. I'll read up more details when I can. =)

I simply do not know what is true in this area, and what pisses me off is people claiming with absolute certainty that they KNOW what is correct.
I see it on both ends of the debate too.
Believers proudly touting that they 100% believe in visitation, and insulting those who don't. No leeway to accept actual logical explanations, or anything.
And those who think all the believers have some sort of mental deficiency... Those who constantly try to shove square pegs into round holes in an attempt to explain some things which, given the current information, cant be explained.
All of them irritate me.
Every one of them.
It turns this subject into a flame war.

Crazed believers giving not only UFOlogy a bad name, but every site they plague. Places like YouTube serve as breeding pits for them...
Or, pseudo-sceptics, who make every believer weary of science, causing a big gap in the basic knowledge of a lot of areas of it... Causing even more conspiracies due to ignorance.


AAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGG!

Ok i agree but i was only stating the facts that were told to the authorities to the poster i was quoting that too.

He was saying about rational explanation i was telling him what was stated about the case, i never cast his opinion away, he was asking for evidence and i provided him with a snippet.

I never have said this is fact and this isn't. I have never said on this forum that i am right and that person is wrong.

Originally Posted by Achillesdude

Ok i agree but i was only stating the facts that were told to the authorities to the poster i was quoting that too.

He was saying about rational explanation i was telling him what was stated about the case, i never cast his opinion away, he was asking for evidence and i provided him with a snippet.

I never have said this is fact and this isn't. I have never said on this forum that i am right and that person is wrong.

Oh I know Achilles, don't worry, the ranting side of my post wasn't directed at you at all lol. =)
I really should start to add a separator between my paragraphs.

Originally Posted by Xeno

Oh I know Achilles, don't worry, the ranting side of my post wasn't directed at you at all lol. =)
I really should start to add a separator between my paragraphs.

My sincerest apologies Xeno, lol .

Originally Posted by Achillesdude

My sincerest apologies Xeno, lol .

Np :P

*I feel a need to update my description of the irritating ones... As to not accidentally piss people off.
People who defend every single alien case with zeal...Or, particular ones with the inability to accept any flaw, no matter how well it's explained.
Like what happened in the Meier thread...