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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenbound View Post
    Just like I said in another thread, nonbelievers will not believe it until they see it. Here is a video that proves little grey men do exsist in my opinion...,
    YouTube - DR. ROGER LEIR - The Turkey UFO Events
    VERY nice video thanks for sharing that one!!!

    and i believe !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenbound View Post
    Just like I said in another thread, nonbelievers will not believe it until they see it. Here is a video that proves little grey men do exsist in my opinion...,
    YouTube - DR. ROGER LEIR - The Turkey UFO Events
    Looks fake to me.
    1. Why would anyone look up the sky at 4am with a video camera?
    2. Anyway UFO comes back year later(2 days in a row), so they were hoping for the UFO to come back and were ready, yet they still only had one crap video camera?
    3. UFO comes back again 2 years later and finally they upgrade the camera. If they waited all that time couldn't they setup something better?
    4. Two Greys looking outside the window? yer maybe they have somekind super telescope/microscope implanted in their eyes lol. They should be able to sit at home and observe ants on Earth in QuadHD if they have technology to travel light years in distance imo.

    Its kinda like that movie Avatar, i thought it was crap(unrealistic), special effects were ok tho. Travel to another planet(light years) just to get some resource? Have technology to travel to another planet but still use current weapons, still smoke cigarette and light it with a lighter, etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOUL-DRIFTER View Post
    To conclude that we are not being visited based on what pathetically little we know in science compared to what we don't know is ridicules. Yeah there is no arguing the distances are vast, but there may literally be dozens of way to supercede space yet to be discovered. Then all this talk will seem silly to us once we discover and utilize just one.
    Partially agree; we could make some analogy between distance and energy production for example. Today, producing 600 MW of energy is possible thanks to nuclear reactors. A hundred or so years ago, nuclear energy was just a theoretical possibility, and before that nobody was even aware of the idea of dividing an atom to obtain energy from it.

    Now, we could say the vast distances separating star systems look enormous just as 600 MW seemed impossible to even consume a century ago, and that it's a matter of time to develop the technology necessary to travel so far in so little time. But the main difference here is that we aren't allowed to travel that fast, that's a fact. And there's no other way to travel through the universe but crossing through it (all those theories involving "spacetime bubbles" and whatnot are as real as string theory) with a finite, subluminal speed. Wormholes are a highly hypotetical chance, but we'd have discovered thousands already, since an object in space emitting particles wouldn't go unnoticed.

    Thinking we'll ever travel so far is more wishful thinking that rational thinking, specially when we know the limits are out there, they've been proven already, they are real, and we can't beat them. I'd sure love to think our species will eventually reach Andromeda at reasonable speeds/time, but not only does that seem impractical (since there isn't much in Andromeda that is not here in the Milky Way) - relativity proves it to be impossible. And aliens aren't gods, so they have to deal with the same universal laws. If they're around here, it's because they live pretty near to us.
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    I disagree.
    + It's not a trashy planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaballa View Post
    Looks fake to me.
    1. Why would anyone look up the sky at 4am with a video camera?
    2. Anyway UFO comes back year later(2 days in a row), so they were hoping for the UFO to come back and were ready, yet they still only had one crap video camera?
    3. UFO comes back again 2 years later and finally they upgrade the camera. If they waited all that time couldn't they setup something better?
    4. Two Greys looking outside the window? yer maybe they have somekind super telescope/microscope implanted in their eyes lol. They should be able to sit at home and observe ants on Earth in QuadHD if they have technology to travel light years in distance imo.

    Its kinda like that movie Avatar, i thought it was crap(unrealistic), special effects were ok tho. Travel to another planet(light years) just to get some resource? Have technology to travel to another planet but still use current weapons, still smoke cigarette and light it with a lighter, etc etc.

    This Ufo came more than twice they have seen it for like 5 years and it comes more than once a year. There is more footage you should look it up on youtube, it will answer those questions for you.
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    Yes I agree its not a trashy planet.....

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    First off our planet is beautiful , yes were killing it sadly but its still beautiful !!!!

    They are here to help us i think , to keep our beautiful planet from disaster.
    and keep us alive . thats what i think .

    but that is my thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBob View Post
    your wrong in that you think we are not technologically advanced to create a craft like this. why it hasnt been done yet is beyond me, but i dont think you realize that we have only been involved in heavy industry for what, maybe 220 years? and as intellegent humans we havent been around for more then a few thousand. this in comparison to a universe thats been around for billions of years that could possibly have a habitable planet that never underwent any catastrphic disaster that would wipe the slate clean so to speak.

    In the past 100 years we went from planes made from wood and cloth to jets that can double Mach 2...that is a great feat using generally the same fuel concepts we have been using for decades. all we need is the correct source of energy and the correct resources...we definately have the brain power (not all of us but the ones that matter)

    personally my beliefe is they have been here before us and have been sort of "waiting" for a species to come along that is capable of evolving intellegently at a higher rate then say a reptile or bird to shepard us along (mostly from afar). I know it belongs in the religion section but i think that also the many ancient holy texts were possibly written by ETs to help give the different civilizations hope and direction of a growing population (this at the time when extinction of a species is much more iminent then it is today with a larger world population living much closer together then say the egyptians closest neighbors the romans.) but thats for another section..

    Do you personally know where the center of the universe is?
    what if we are NEAR the outskirts of the universe, and we, along with a few others, are only 4.5+ billion years old and we have only gotten so far? Believing the earth has been visted by ETs is just like relgion imho, it's only speculations and beliefs....I'm not religous, I believe in evolution....man could not come up with the technology to travel trillions of light years even if we were for 700,000 more years, physics are pyshics....If you want to be delusional and believe 'aliens' have been here, go right ahead, you probably also have faith in an imaginary man that lives in the sky , dont wanna stir anything up, this is simply MY OWN CONCLUSION....thanks for viewing.

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    ha....well when they show there themselfs ill will look for you here and say HAHA told you they visit here! :P lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwinTurboMatt View Post
    man could not come up with the technology to travel trillions of light years even if we were for 700,000 more years, physics are pyshics....
    We once thought flying was impossible, we once thought travelling at the speed of sound was impossible, we once thought space travel was impossible, we once thought it would be impossible to travel to the moon, we once thought the only elements were earth, wind, fire, and water. The laws of physics have been rewritten countless times and I see little reason for them not to be rewritten countless times more.

    At this point I believe just about anything is possible and it's only time that prevents it from being discovered. If aliens have been involved in advanced technology for even just... a thousand years... it is very easy for me to believe that they are travelling past the speed of light. There is a lot of strong evidence that points to Earth being visited, I find the evidence I have read through more credible than a simple claim that it's "technologically impossible", since that has been said way too many times in humanity's short existence on Earth.


    Quote Originally Posted by TwinTurboMatt View Post
    If you want to be delusional and believe 'aliens' have been here, go right ahead, you probably also have faith in an imaginary man that lives in the sky , dont wanna stir anything up, this is simply MY OWN CONCLUSION....thanks for viewing.
    No one is calling you delusional, so please don't call anyone else delusional. I can understand you not believing in aliens. Granted, it's hard to believe in. But I think it is easier to believe in than most religions since there is hard evidence coming from many different people and cultures around the world. I think it is somewhat hypocritical of you to say that you don't want to stir anything up while calling us delusional at the same time. We want to hear what you have to say, but we want to be respected too.
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