Alien Abductions Debunked? The Secret Story of the CIA's Top Secret Program: MK-ULTRA

**Achilles** · 10-24-2011, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Pan928

The only reason they do this is because we let the government do whatever they want. They can take valuable information and turn into a secret. Then they say it is of upmost importance that they keep secrets in order to protect us from commies, terrorists or whoever. The real reason they keep so many secrets is to protect themselves from us.

No doubt these guys are up to some nefarious activities. These experiments that the government are up to is just an extension of what the Nazis were doing. Honestly, the government doesn't give two shits about us. We are being used to get them more power and when we are done being used, they will pull the rug out from under us and blame it on something other than them.

I think it is time to occupy Area 51.

And Dulce.

**thecactus** · 10-24-2011, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Achillesdude

Alien Abductions Debunked? The Secret Story of the CIA's Top Secret Program: MK-ULTRA, page 1

This is very interesting, basically saying that the US government are behind the alleged alien abductions.

What is everyone's thoughts and opinions on this.

I actually think this has some levels of credibility and very likely, imo possible but I cannot rule out actual extra terrestrial abduction as another possible alternative or are they both apparent ?

This would definitely explain it IMO. I watched the Derren Brown Assassination show a few nights ago and it showed that the MK Ultra programme could have been behind Robert Kennedys assasination, and who knows what else?

**whitecrayon** · 10-30-2011, 08:34 PM

dear all

first, thanks a-dude for the link in the opening post. before reading the thread it led to, i had vaguely heard of mk-ultra before, but now i (presumably) know a little more about what it involved. the information you provided was an eye-opener.

second, i want to offer briefly here a small part of my testimony concerning what i believe are american experiments which have been conducted on me over the past few years, which may or may not be related to mk-ultra or so-called "milabs", if such are real. if anyone needs to read about my long history of high strangeness experiences, which have included several incontrovertible spaceship sightings as well as remote senser monitoring and communications (and quite a few other things), please take a few minutes to read over my very first post and thread linked here: greetings. i am in contact with eti of some sort..

one of the hardest things for me to do sometimes is to separate the internal "voices" of aliens from those of american remote sensers, who DO monitor and experiment on me, including in highly unethical, immoral and illegal (according to american constitutional and international human rights law) ways. once i began disseminating electronic communications for aliens, i began experiencing "voices" that have proved to be american remote sensers (and very rarely, a handful of times, i have experienced human remote senser external "voices" that had british accents and once a french accent that only spoke french), although they tried to trick me for quite some time into believing that they were alien "voices". the most immoral aspect of the treatment i have received from my federal government, however, is the efforts employees of american intelligence have made to drive me to commit suicide. for many months, i was continually bombarded with messages to the effect of that i was to be captured and tortured for disseminating top secret intelligence worldwide, which, under high duress and psychological stress, i fell prey to. i was "told" by one american psychic/remote senser less than one year ago, in jacksonville, florida, that i needed to commit suicide "for the benefit of everyone", including my family and all of america, which i nearly attempted AGAIN! and that's not the half of it. the united states government, under this barack obama administration, has violated international human rights laws in its treatment of me to a degree serious enough to warrant prosecution by the international criminal court (icc) and/or the international court of justice at the hague, and to warrant allowing me to emigrate from america to some merciful, ethical, peace-loving nation, perhaps britain or canada or australia (given that i speak truly fluently only the english language). that is, secret divisions within american intelligence (almost assuredly american military and cia remote sensing and psychic warfare labs) have experimented upon me without my consent for years and then finally attempted numeous times to drive me to suicide. these labs have proven that they are run by immoral and sadistic cowards, probably at the rank of generals and subdirectors of the cia, too cowardly to order friendly communications with me face-to-face.

i have submitted formally claims to the icc and the hague, as well as human rights watchdog agencies such as human rights watch, but my communications around that time came across as insane, due to many months of experimentation by the americans.

if any american intelligence officers read this post, i herewith formally request an end to the harmful and life-threatening experiments upon me, which the nobel peace prize-winning barack obama administration is responsible for, in my non-expert opinion. no human deserves to be attacked and confused psychologically, under the auspices of experimentation for national security purposes, without face-to-face notification of the reasons behind them. that is, if the collective intelligence forces of the united states of america wish for me to cease from any activities that may be deemed threatening to american or international security, i request a formal face-to-face explanation and request for cessation by me of said activities. further, if, at this stage of your nation's experimentation on me, i represent only a minor threat of exposure of information pertaining to your government's immoral and illegal activities and/or the extraterrestrial intelligence i have encountered and served, and all efforts to destroy me are over, i request that all american experimentation on me end forthwith, given the criminal and harmful nature of it. i request that any commanding military, cia and/or us secret service officers who can end the nightmarish treatment i have endured under this obama administration please do so. i have suffered for years now and nearly committed suicide, all in the name of american unnecessary war, hate, greed, lies and disinformation, and criminal experimentation on an american citizen. further, my family members love me very much, and i ask all american intelligence officers who read this to consider the rights of my family members, who also are law-abiding tax-paying american citizens and who do not deserve to have a loved one tortured psychologically and/or murdered under this ostensibly peace-loving and merciful administration. this message is over.

jonathan keith sheriff, ba