Thread: David Icke - So Who are they? The Historical Evidence

achilles....so what are your thoughts on this? Just posting a new thread with only a youtube vidclip doesn't really help. Words, thoughts and ideas are helpful.

We do have an active david icke thread......why start a new one?

Originally Posted by Castle-Bravo354

achilles....so what are your thoughts on this? Just posting a new thread with only a youtube vidclip doesn't really help. Words, thoughts and ideas are helpful.

We do have an active david icke thread......why start a new one?

It is a new video showing completely different material to what is already discussed.

I wanted to see what people thought of this video and the material involved, what do you want me to say CB, I agree with Icke and this video, what else is there to say ?

CB can't view videos, Achilles~~

B'

It is a new video but it is clips of all the old footage, I didn't see anything new. I don't know enough about Icke, I have only slightly perused his stuff. I know he went out on a limb with the reptilian theory and some of it, I find plausible and some of it I find theatrical, does that make sense? LOL.

B'

Nothing new.
Rehash of old material.
And they make a lot of assumptions that requires very loose interpretations.
Include a few that have been proven hoaxes.
And talks about hybrids from ancient hitstory.
Then degrades into stuff that sounds like a rehash of religion.

Assumption, falsehoods, and generally BS.
I dont know what you mean by new material.
Looks like more of the same reptillians are the illuminati crap to me.

Loved this line
"There are no good aliens, all aliens are demons"
Kind of like me saying all Ickeian's are idiots.

Originally Posted by bart5050

Nothing new.
Rehash of old material.
And they make a lot of assumptions that requires very loose interpretations.
Include a few that have been proven hoaxes.
And talks about hybrids from ancient hitstory.
Then degrades into stuff that sounds like a rehash of religion.

Assumption, falsehoods, and generally BS.
I dont know what you mean by new material.
Looks like more of the same reptillians are the illuminati crap to me.

Loved this line
"There are no good aliens, all aliens are demons"
Kind of like me saying all Ickeian's are idiots.

Bart forget this material for a second let me ask you two questions because I would like your opinion on this.

Do you think that secret families run the world and do you think the shadow government exists ?

Originally Posted by Achillesdude

Bart forget this material for a second let me ask you two questions because I would like your opinion on this.

Do you think that secret families run the world and do you think the shadow government exists ?

Oh can I answer these also?

Not so secret families influence world opinion (via employment and media control) but they dont run it. Yes there is a shadow government. They are called public serverents over here and they do all the work getting all the crap so that the pollie can look squeeky clean even when its their own crap if you know what I mean.

On the Ickie subject of Ic...never mind.

I think Ickie started off like so many others. He put everything on the line to present a theory. He should be applauded for that regardless IMO. However as holes began to appear in his theories he overlooked,and what may best be described been creative in certain intepretitions to plug these holes.

If acadamia had been more accepting of fresh thinking back then he may have been able to return to his old position rather then making UFO/Anicient Aliens etc genre his source of income. After all if you want to sell more books you have to come up with more stories...it just cheapens the whole topic.

Originally Posted by The Hazard

Oh can I answer these also?

Not so secret families influence world opinion (via employment and media control) but they dont run it. Yes there is a shadow government. They are called public serverents over here and they do all the work getting all the crap so that the pollie can look squeeky clean even when its their own crap if you know what I mean.

On the Ickie subject of Ic...never mind.

I think Ickie started off like so many others. He put everything on the line to present a theory. He should be applauded for that regardless IMO. However as holes began to appear in his theories he overlooked,and what may best be described been creative in certain intepretitions to plug these holes.

If acadamia had been more accepting of fresh thinking back then he may have been able to return to his old position rather then making UFO/Anicient Aliens etc genre his source of income. After all if you want to sell more books you have to come up with more stories...it just cheapens the whole topic.

Yes of course you can answer those, any one can lol, thank you for sharing your opinion and answering those questions, it is really appreciated Hazard .

Originally Posted by Achillesdude

Bart forget this material for a second let me ask you two questions because I would like your opinion on this.

Do you think that secret families run the world and do you think the shadow government exists ?

There are no secret families running the world.

The closest that has ever come is when Kings and Queens controlled the worlds most powerful naval forces.
The historic period which inspired the phrase "The sun never sets on the British Empire."
The British colonial era which was waning when Hong Kong was aquired by britain.

Hong Kong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The rule of Kings and Queens over the worlds most powerful countries was drawing to a close before ww1.

For France it ended with the Napolianic Wars.
For Russia it ended with the death of the last Czar.

The royal famalies were once the power brokers of the world, but that was no secret.

Shadow governments.
Every modern world government has one.
They have to.

Presidents come and go.
Four to eight years and they are replaced.
There are projects governments undertake that last decades.
Legal structures have to continue.

People get tired of the guy who is in charge.
During the perod of Royal rulers, overthrow a king and chaos resulted until a new King established his rule.

Elections are a peaceful overthrow of rulers.
A way for the business of government to continue while leaders were replaced.

For the government to continue with business as usual while leaders are replaced requires a self sustaining entity.

The Kings or Queens were the law.
Presidents and Prime Ministers are subject to the law.

As such, the law continues no matter who is in charge.
It is run by Justices of the supreme court, attourney generals, Federal Judges, and heads of enforcement agencies.
The president appoints his cabinet, but the department continues no matter who is the appointed boss.

So there is a shadow government in place in all modern government systems.
It is run by people put in place by appointment.
They come and go, just like presidents, but their departments continue.

Revolutions and overthrow of Royalty was catastrophic for businesses and economies.
A self perpetuating legal structure of government allows business and economies to continue when leaders are tossed.

There is a shadow government, and every country that does not have one goes through the hell Libya is undergoing right now when leaders get tossed.

If you like anarchy and chaos, then I guess the shadow government is a problem for you.

If you like law and order and a bill of rights, the shadow government is required.